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Throughout the season Dexter has been growing as a human being. Some fans love it, some hate it. I think that this evolution is the point of this season and that we should have a place to discuss it as the season draws to a close.
Some people feel that it has made the show seem too much like a sitcom. I think that this is the same Dexter we saw in the first season just with feeling behind it. Dexter has started to become his own person, away from Harry's code. This is why some people hate Rita she is the catalyst to his change.
It is not fair, as fans, to want Dexter to stay trapped in his own dark place. He is expanding to realize that he has interests and wants beyond his 'hobby'.
I think that Harry stunted Dexter emotionally in an effort to keep in from hurting others (innocent others anyway) or being locked up. If Dexter had been led in a different direction he may have been more of a whole man.
SO, discuss you guys. Love the revelations of emotion? Hate it?
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Dexter's Slide Box
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Sunday, 12:02 AM EST by
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Does anybody know where I can find the same slide box Dexter uses?
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"Does anybody know where I can find the same slide box Dexter uses?" I found the exact replica today on ebay it's ending in 15 hrs. The best ive seen
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Dexter's outfit
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Nov 13 2009, 3:35 PM EST by
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Does anyone know where to buy a bag exactly like the one Dexter carries around in season 2?
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Nov 13 2009, 3:35 PM EST
In episode 4 of season 4 "Dexter Takes A Holiday", Dexter is using a NOKIA N96 smartphone. According to Cnet.com they not a very good phone.
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Dexter's kill ensemble
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Oct 31 2009, 10:58 AM EDT by
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OK, maybe someone has already covered this, but does Dexter wear the same outfit when he kills? He always seems to have the same tight sand colored shirt and chinos on.
Also, what did he have on over that, but under the apron when he killed Jimenez?
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Oct 31 2009, 10:58 AM EDT
Old thread but I thought I'd comment.
The *exact* shirt is from American Apparel: T457 Baby Thermal Long Sleeve Henley (Army Green)
He must buy them by the crate and throw them out after every kill..
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Who Will Dexter Love, After it is all out in the open ?
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The women have thier issues to deal with re: Dex / The Bay Harbor Butcher. BUT who will Dex want to be with after all of the issues are cleared up? Will he want to be with Rita / Martha Stewart, what is considered a normal life, 2.0 kids middle class home etc. or Lila - who is every bit as dark as himself. Who may have killed others for her own personal prpose ie: her boy frind (was t really an accident?) are there others? Deb - his sister, she is family, but Deb plays the 'were family card' more that he does. I think he loves her as much ashe can.
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"I don't necessarily think that he needs, or moreover wants a 'love' , for him his relationship has always been about blending in and maintaining his mask. If it ever came down to it he wouldn't have any problem dropping Rita as deep down he doesn't love her, maybe the idea of her. I do think though that he will develop a deep bond with Harrison, the realization of having a son will be quite compelling for Dexter.
Get over the Deb thing, they are family and clearly not each others type, of course they wont ******* hook up... I cant beleive people have actually implied that! And Deb can handle the truth, can people actually read the books!!1! thanks. " Don't you think he is progressing to have feelings and to learn to love as it was intended for him as, a normal person, would feel? Yes at the beginning Of the MOVIE Series, he was not able to have normal feelings. He has over the MOVIE Series had events that have brought feeling to the surface. So he will be capable of love as a normal person could feel. When I started this thread I was thinking that Dex after he had his mis adventures with the women that were interested in him, if they all failed who would be there for him as a support person. So I did mis label it I guess, I included Deb as a person who would be there to offer unconditional love for him as she is his sister. But the thread I think was started when the Series had the episode when Dex was telling Deb he was the BHB. In that Showing was the time when Deb was reating to what Dex had said. She had pulled a gun on him at one point and then broke down in tears etc. So I was thinking Who would really be there when the trueth came out about his being the BHB. Like Would Rita still be there, and Would Deb drop himas the cop she is, would Lila (well we know about Lila) There was Maria and the file clerk that dies etc. Who would really be his support?
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Oct 19 2009, 11:38 PM EDT by
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Does Dexter ever have the urge to go "outside" the code. Like does he ever just want to let loose and kill a random person walking by, or has the code formed his urge only to kill those who deserve it?
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Oct 19 2009, 11:38 PM EDT
Does any one else see Harry differently this season? Is he changing the code or pushing Dexter to do things Dex does not want to do??
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Is Dexter now a Characature of Himself?
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...I find the show entertaining. I do. I liked the opener a whole lot. The JL performance is the only reason I'm stoked for this season. MCH is as good as ever but his character is at the crossroads of distracting inconsistence and the plausibility required for suspension of disbelief. I'm not saying I could do better. S3 just didn't fit with S1 + S2 and now the contrast between pure psychopath and ambiguously damaged goods is losing coherence. Scenes which are true to the Dex of S1/S2, like where he sings his child to sleep and is amusingly devoid of normal human response do "gel" for me.
Does anyone get what I'm saying?
Basically, the character is becoming something that is harder and harder to believe is in the domain of possibility, which detracts from the ability to resonate/sympathize/live-vicariously-through = bummer.
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Sep 29 2009, 6:37 PM EDT
"S3 brought harry into the present. Psychopathic murderers are by no means schizophrenic implicitly. His "hallucinations" up to that point, like that of his brother at the funeral and appearing as he "let him go" into the ocean fell into the artistic latitude category. What is going on with Harry feels much more like someone saying: "The fans like Harry"" And the thing about Harry being in sort of like a "dream" state for Dexter, is that I'm fine with that when its necessary. Sometimes its good to see what Dexter feels when he's "rebelling" against his father. But did Dexter really need an internalized vision of his father's wisdom to tell him not to fall asleep on the road? It's common sense. But about making mistakes, everyone is a loud to make mistakes, even Dexter. But it has to make sense for the character. I don't think it was necessarily out of character for Dex to trust Miguel. But the other slip-ups we've pointed out, along with some others, are just out of character entirely. Sometimes I'm thinking "Why would Dexter even do that!?"
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Will the Rita and Dexter marriage last?
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If it weren't for the baby, would the couple have married? Will it last? How long will it last, and, what will break them down it that occurs? What kind of wife did you see Dexter with? Is Rita right for Dexter?
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Sep 27 2009, 3:30 PM EDT
"Obviously they couple are married in the beginning of this new season. But, will it last?" Yes it will, there is no way it can not. At least until the last episode of the last season.
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Dexter's First Emotion?
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When Dexter has his victim on the table and the man is running off at the mouth--Dexter actually reacts with emotion for the first time. When the victim calls Lila a c***, Dexter's emotions run wild and his stabs him, possibliy before he actually meant to. A few seconds before, he was admiring the man for his ability to lie. What gives?
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Responding to the question of how Dexter can be admiring the scumbucket's lying and then suddenly get so enraged that he kills him: D. admires the ease the scum seems to have lying. Lying is obviously important to D.'s survival in general. But specifically he has had trouble lying to Rita lately--this gets him sent to the NA meetings(which he doesn't want) and then into the doghouse with Rita for not wanting to continue to go to them. So D. is listening to the scum's relentless, glib lying and wishes he could have done better himself lying to Rita. But when the scum's attempts to connect with D. so as to save himself lead to discussion of women the ugliness of the scum's attitude toward them surfaces and he calls D.'s GF derogatory names in a venemous outburst that triggers D. to attack him. Yes,D. has previously shown emotion. But here he realizes unexpectedly his emotion for Rita specifically--that she is not "just a companion" as he has just described her--trying in vain to dismiss her importance as he is threatened presently with losing his relationship with her because of his refusal to go to NA further. He attacks the scum at that moment because the scum's words are so insulting towards this person that D. suddenly realizes he does now care about despite that he apparently did initiate the relationship more with the goal of simply projecting normalcy so as to keep suspicion further from him. So I agree that this seems to be the first time we see emotion about Rita from Dexter. He realizes he does actually care about her as a person' not just as a means of being more inconspicuous.
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How will Dexter and his "Dark Passenger" cope with married life?
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Aug 5 2009, 6:21 PM EDT by
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What do you think? Can the two worlds really mix?
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Is Dexter Morgan really a monster?
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Aug 1 2009, 11:51 PM EDT by
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I think that part of the appeal of Dexter is that he is personable and likeable. He interacts well with Rita and the kids and with Deb. His secret life is compartmentalized and does not intrude on his day-to-day, normal existence. While Dexter believes he is a monster and dead inside, he does not act this way. He does not function like Michael Meyers, who truly is dead inside. Rather Dexter is a super-vigilante who through the magic of Harry's Code combines a compulsion to kill (thanks to me, the Dark Passenger) with the greater interests of justice. He's sort of like Batman, except Batman brings 'em in alive and Dexter has no intention of doing so. I see some problems with the way the story has developed so far in the TV series because Dexter is simply too nice a guy. We really do not see his uglier side enough to experience fear and revulvsion, the way we do with, say, Hannibal Lecter's cannibalism. Since we see everything through Dexter's eyes, we do not experience pity or compassion for the victims, since Dexter has none. But what if he were to get it wrong? What if, despite every precaution of fact checking, Dex were to torture and kill a completely innocent individual? Would he feel bad? He would have broken the Code, but since Dexter enjoys killing, does not experience normal emotions, and is very pragmatic (Oops!) I am not sure he would have any deep regret. I think that for the character to develop we need to see more of the cold-blooded nature of Dexter the serial killer at work. We need to have some compassion for his victims. We need to see that he is really not like one of us (or rather like one of you, puny human individuals, not me--the Dark Passenger, a demon). Sgt. Doakes is the only one who really understood Dexter, since he too was a born killer, but he was written out of the story line. I think the series needs another Doakes to put Dexter at risk and expose his darker side to the public gaze. What do you think?
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True, Dexter does not really offer closure to the families. Doing so would conflict with the "Don't get caught" rule. But this is a peripheral issue to the administration of justice. Dexter does bring closure to the lives of Miami serial killers.
Now, if we really, really believed in divine justice, viz. that you can't get away with anything and that God will punish the wicked in both the present and the hereafter in a way which restores absolute moral order to the universe, we would not need to worry too much about administering human justice, which at its best is only an approximation of divine justice. This was how things once stood, in antiquity, before the invention of the modern nation state and its apparatus of police forces. The Furies would get you. And yes, if society sanctioned the private administration of justice, we lose certain safeguards. But we are not talking here about passing out vigilante "007" licenses to all takers. We are just talking about Dexter. Dexter only kills vermin. He may not always be gentle in his killing methods, but he does seek to make the punishment fit the crime.
The Dark Passenger hopes that you are not wanting Dexter to get caught.
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Jun 8 2009, 1:52 PM EDT by
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dexter seems pretty emotional for someone whos not suppose to have any emotion.
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Jun 8 2009, 1:52 PM EDT
"You are so right. I even looked up sociopath to double check. I think that maybe the cause of his problems were due to trauma and not someone he was born with so maybe there's hope. I hope they explain it more this season because no matter how many times he says he has no emotions, he clearly does. " I think about this everytime they show him having some sort of emotion. The sociopathy was caused by extreme mental trauma, but the question is, once the brain is wired that way, can you change it? They have been studying the minds of serial killers for years, if they could change them, don't you think they would? I thought that maybe once Dexter remembered what happened to him as a child (with Brian/Rudy's help, that is) it brought a rush of emotions in. What I still don't understand is why didn't they start putting Dexter in therapy as soon as he was old enough to go through it? Harry hid it from everybody and basically trained him to kill bad people. Some people think that Harry did the right thing, others, not so much.
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If Dexter was your real life relation, would you turn him in?
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Jun 8 2009, 12:16 PM EDT by
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Let's just pretend like Dexter is your real relative for awhile. Everybody has been speculating what people's reactions will be IF or when he gets caught. If you found out about him, and found out all of the details of his past and what happened to him to make him the way he is, full well knowing that he has a code to only kill other killers, would you turn him in? Would you confront him first? There is a huge moral and ethical decision to make here. I'm really curious to know what you all think.
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Jun 8 2009, 12:16 PM EDT
"This has been discussed in my family. My aunt wouldn't no matter what. If my kid was killing innocent people I think would want to kill her then myself. I couldn't let her keep killing. That said, I live in New Orleans, murder capital of the US. We need a couple of Dexters here." lol, I am sure you would appreciate Dex's help there. I have heard stories, I have seen the news. I would not want to find out for myself what you are going through. My son was there to help out withthe flood relief. He had more stories to tell that were not on the news.
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What will St Peter say when Dexter Shows up at the Gates of Heaven?
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May 17 2009, 1:24 AM EDT by
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I have often wondered if the Code will actually be Dexters salvation. Dexter has this affliction, he can not hel himself that he is what he is. Since Dexter only kills those that need to be punished. Will he forgiven that he is or has killed. Does he get credit for the good stuff, or I should say he murders he has prevented?
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May 17 2009, 1:24 AM EDT
"And I hope they keep it that way. Too many archetypal good guys on tv anyway." My truest and deepest thoughts are I agree with you. He can not really be 'Born Again', as in the Bible toten, Babtized in the river amonst a large crowd type of thing. One of the things I find very interesting though is that there are so many people that think Dexter is Great. They are on here posting and making it seem as though Dexter is the best thing since Chocolate met peanut butter. Now that a question like this has been posted they are calling him truely evil. It just seems so odd that they love him but have these horrable feelings about him. It is like they want more of him, but think he is awful. It is not a double standard, it is very strange how these people flip flop around. There are too many ... 'Archetypical Good Guyson tv anyway'... They do not seem very believable either. But so far Dexter is believable in his way.
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Dexter's sunglasses
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May 13 2009, 5:18 AM EDT by
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Hi! Here in Italy this beautiful series has just started but we already love it! Could anyone help me to discover something about Dexter's sunglasses? Rayban, Oakley or what? What's the model's name? Thanks a lot.
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Hi everybody, if you are still searching for dexter's sunglasses i found this...
http://sunglassesline.com/ferragamo-sunglasses-model-1098-color-50271.html
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Do you want Dexter to panish you for your sins?..
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May be someone can consider this thread as somethink cruel, but it`s interesting for me, have you ever done in your life the things Dexter could panish you for?.. and if your answer "no"... then my question is: were there thoughts in your brains to commit a crime and have you got your own "code" to get hold yourself of committing it or doing something .."bad"?.. If you find this topic not interesting, please get rid of it, but answer first, because it`s interesing for me! Thank you
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"May be someone can consider this thread as somethink cruel, but it`s interesting for me, have you ever done in your life the things Dexter could panish you for?.. and if your answer "no"... then my question is: were there thoughts in your brains to commit a crime and have you got your own "code" to get hold yourself of committing it or doing something .."bad"?.. If you find this topic not interesting, please get rid of it, but answer first, because it`s interesing for me! Thank you " I have reread the title here for this thread. It says Do You Want Dexter to Punish You for your sins? I first thought it was about having Deter do a job for you, lik to Punish someone for you. But it says do you wnat to be punished... Now I must thin either it is lost in translation or it is a cry for Dexter to punsh smeone for thier own sins. No I would not wnat Dexter to Punish me. As I have not done anything I would need to be Dexterized for. So if you feel you must be punished, then I think Dex would do it the best way possible. So yes if I need Dexs help he is the one I would want. I know I flip flopped around on this one. But I think others should post to this thread, as it is an interesting question.
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Michael Hall as Dexter Morgan the Dark Avenger or a Serial Killer?
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I watched 6ft under, and I was nly watching it because my wife liked it. So I did get involved inh it. I did enjoy it as it was ery well writen and very well done. They had a set of very decent actors in it as well. BUT I am not gay nor do I understand the attraction of having romance with the same sex. I do have an pen mind, so I continued.
Now Dexter came on, and I thought it would be a continuation of a Gay SK. and all of that so I told my wife all about t, and when I came on I was willing to watch it for her sake, and I guess to avoid a divorce I need to let the litle woman have the remote every once in awhile. I set the TiVo and sat down to watch it (with my gameboy with in arms reach mind you), and a wood working magazine. SOmething very many close by.
I was blown away by the show. I thouight it was great, and now my wife only watches it while she is knitting, and has nothing else to do. I am glad I have an open mind.
I think Michael Hall is a great Dexter. I love the concept of Dexter, a serial killer with a social conscious. I was alos hoping they would explore and develop an Avenger or Darl Avenger theme. I guess they are just by havine Dexter at all.
I am the biggest fan of Dexter and hope it stays around for quite some time.
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"I watched 6ft under, and I was nly watching it because my wife liked it. So I did get involved inh it. I did enjoy it as it was ery well writen and very well done. They had a set of very decent actors in it as well. BUT I am not gay nor do I understand the attraction of having romance with the same sex. I do have an pen mind, so I continued.
Now Dexter came on, and I thought it would be a continuation of a Gay SK. and all of that so I told my wife all about t, and when I came on I was willing to watch it for her sake, and I guess to avoid a divorce I need to let the litle woman have the remote every once in awhile. I set the TiVo and sat down to watch it (with my gameboy with in arms reach mind you), and a wood working magazine. SOmething very many close by.
I was blown away by the show. I thouight it was great, and now my wife only watches it while she is knitting, and has nothing else to do. I am glad I have an open mind.
I think Michael Hall is a great Dexter. I love the concept of Dexter, a serial killer with a social conscious. I was alos hoping they would explore and develop an Avenger or Darl Avenger theme. I guess they are just by havine Dexter at all.
I am the biggest fan of Dexter and hope it stays around for quite some time." Hear Hear....well said Jeff. I like to think of Dexter as a Dark Avenger. he finds worthy, bad guys to take out.
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I hate posting double threads, but I can't seem to find this (although I did find the threat about the brand of his bag - excellent!). So, I suppose they could be your every day, run of the mill black leather gloves, but I was hoping someone could give me some insight on a brand and type of gloves that Dexter uses primarily during his break-ins.
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Dexter's Fall: Is Dexter's secrecy his saving grace?
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Is Dexter's secrecy the only thing that will save him?
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"i agree here Dexter just can not afford for anyone to know anything about what he does. look how it almost all came undone once when he thought his sponsor understood & the next time when he tried to teach someone else his code. I think Harry knew Dexter had a strong sense of right and wrong so he taught him is code this is what helps Dexter not to become just a mindless monster killing randomly. he needs to keep it secret because others do not share his strong convictions and also don't have that killer lerking inside. remember how destructive and murderous his brother "the ice truck killer" was that is how Dexter would be if not for Harry and the code he taught him. Others are not Dexter so they can't know the saving grace for Dexter is to keep to his code, keep it secret and safe." It's like the show should be called; Dexter - The Code of Harry or Harry's Cade as Lived by Dexter the SK..
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Dexter's Emotions: Will Dexter continue to become more "human"?
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Through season two, we found Dexter becoming more "human," rather than faking it all the time. With his vow to honor Doakes' sacrifice by enjoying his freedom, how do you think his emotions will grow in season 3?
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RE: Dexter's Emotions: Will Dexter continue to become more "human"?
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Mar 17 2009, 11:23 PM EDT
"I sure don't want him caught since that means end of the show.
"Dexter for President"" I don't want him caught or killed - why can't he just keep on as he is - I don't think he will ever become really "human" or normal emotionally the urge to kill is as basic as his survival instinct & as long as he only kills those who under "harry's code" deserve it then fine by me. he hasn't ever crossed the line and killed just for the sake of it.
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