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Morgaine	Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 18 2007, 5:07 PM EST I looked to see if there was a thread like this anywhere and couldn't find one. If it's in the wrong place, let me know. So we've got our oddly lovable serial killer vs. Special Agen Rock Star. Both are obstensibly the best at what they do. But hwo is better? Lundy already has the killer pegged as being in law enforcement. That's a bit of a stretch given the evidence they have, but the writers took it there already, so here we are. Lundy is going through all of their case files. From my perspective, Deb is Dexter's best defense, though neither she nor he will probably realize it. I think Lundy will tend to disregard Dex because of his relationship with Deb. The question is, will he let a serial killer who only kills killers slip through his fingers to protect Debra from knowing the truth about Dex? It doesn't make sense that Lundy hasn't picked up on the animosity with Doakes yet. The Lt. doesn't see it because she's attracted to Dexter, at least according to this site. I've never really seen that in the show. I can't understand why they wouldn't all take a former special forces guy seriously. His insights should be taken seriously. Is it possible for this to be the one case Lundy can't solve? So far, he's finding the clues beneath the clues Dexter is planting. He also already noticed Dexters meticulous ways. The idea that Dex has a "knack for tracking serial killers" should be a red flag, too. How does finding the right music tie in? Post reply 13 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: c hall michael dexter dexter tv show hall michael showtime dexter
OrdinaryfoolisNJ	1. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 18 2007, 10:54 PM EST So far Lundy seems to have not just matched Dexter's hand, but outplayed him. The wild card in this whole thing is Doaks. As of tonight, it looks as if Dex is found out. Dex made a major mistake with sending his writings to the press. Since I don't want this show to end with season 2, I'm hoping that something is thrown in the mix that throws everyone off. Again. But Doaks is close. Perhaps his own dark side will force Doaks into making a major error. I'm wondering if Doaks terse refusal to stay and be interviewed by Lundy has perhaps thrown the shadow of being suspect onto himself??? Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Morgaine	2. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 18 2007, 11:20 PM EST At this point, if I were Dexter, I'd kill Doakes and frame him. He knows too much, and eventually somebody, probably Lundy, will listen to him. Lundy is so close now that pinning it on someone else in the department is his only option. Of course, if it turns out Dexter checked that car out of impound in his own name, Dexter may be sunk. Post reply 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	3. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 19 2007, 6:25 PM EST I was surprised to see Lundy go so overboard on Dexter this past episode. If he is sure it is a cop it seems he would still keep everything quiet until he actually had proof. Now he has Dexter on alert so he can cover his tracks more. Post reply 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Morgaine	4. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 20 2007, 11:24 PM EST I've been watching those previews carefully - they never accuse Dexter of anything, he just assumes they suspect him because Lundy sends for him. It's entirely possible an FBI informant turns those slides in as being from Doakes, and they sent for Dexter because he's the blood guy. They may not have checked fingerprints or anything yet. I'm hoping he thinks of Dexter as the go-to guy in the Forensics dept. because he's so meticulous and he's Deb's brother. He didn't hesitate to ask Dexter about Deb. And he did say his reports were a pleasure to read. I just can't handle the idea of Dexter being a suspect. It has to go back on Doakes. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	5. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 1:13 AM EST ".............. they never accuse Dexter of anything, he just assumes they suspect him because Lundy sends for him. ...... slides in as being from Doakes, and they sent for Dexter because he's the blood guy. ...........They may not have checked fingerprints or anything yet. .............I'm hoping he thinks of Dexter as the go-to guy in the Forensics dept. because he's so meticulous and he's Deb's brother. He didn't hesitate to ask Dexter about Deb. And he did say his reports were a pleasure to read. I just can't handle the idea of Dexter being a suspect. It has to go back on Doakes. " I mentioned that in another thread. That there are Doakes prints on them now as well as Dexters. I am not sure Dexters is on them as he may have only handled them with gloves on. But at any rate, Doakes wil have his prints on them unless he wipes them then of course there will be no prints. I think with that in ind and if Doakes leaves them there and tells some one that he knows they are there then he has set himself up as planting them. So we will see what happens. I hope Dexter comes out OK. I am worried about how he left the body open and exposed while he had to talk to Rita and Lila and protect the kids. My other worry is about Deb and Lundy, how will all of that work out? If Lud will over look Dexter because of a fondness for Deb, or will Deb still be an official cop / who hates any murderer, and want to bring to justice, because she is a cop, and now hanging with Cop Rock Star. I think will still love her brother, and want to stand by him, so that means Lund will hav to bend to stay with Deb, or who knows. I am concerned. Post reply 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	6. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 1:21 AM EST .......I'd kill Doakes and frame him...... I would love to see that happen also. Doakes is too close and he will do what he ahs to to find out about Dexter. i was also surpeised to see that Doakes would not help Lundy. He may still be angry about not being picked for the team at the beginning. I hope that car is checked out by Doakes, or in his name anyway. Dexter is in trouble. I am worried. I can only hope that Deb is too much for him in the sack, and will screw him silly. Post reply 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Hanksfuture1stwife	7. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 1:27 PM EST This is the classic "Fugitive" story - Dexter will always have to have someone chasing him. Both Doakes and Lundy are perfect. But they're so close to catching him now something totally from left field will have to happen to either point the finger elsewhere, or, Doakes and/or Lundy are taken out of the picture without it being Dexter who does it. After all, Dexter only really has the passion for killing those who deserve it. I don't really think the fans would ultimately be satisfied if Dexter killed someone just because they were getting close to catching him. He seems to be resigned to it if it should happen. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	8. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 2:22 PM EST "This is the classic "Fugitive" story - Dexter will always have to have someone chasing him. Both Doakes and Lundy are perfect. But they're so close to catching him now something totally from left field will have to happen to either point the finger elsewhere, or, Doakes and/or Lundy are taken out of the picture without it being Dexter who does it. After all, Dexter only really has the passion for killing those who deserve it. I don't really think the fans would ultimately be satisfied if Dexter killed someone just because they were getting close to catching him. He seems to be resigned to it if it should happen." I do understand all of this, I was responding to anothers reply, and thought I would add to the drams. After all it is all in fun. I do not take this as a true life event. It is Hollywood, and in my opinion about the only thing worth watching on TV. If it were not for Dexter I probably would cancel my Satillite subscription. (again an over statement). Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
simonwheatley	9. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 5:53 PM EST "So we've got our oddly lovable serial killer vs. Special Agen Rock Star. Both are obstensibly the best at what they do. But who is better? Lundy already has the killer pegged as being in law enforcement. That's a bit of a stretch given the evidence they have, but the writers took it there already, so here we are. Lundy is going through all of their case files. " OK, here's a stretch for you... does anyone else see the possibility of Lundy being a killer? * Dex is good at finding serial killers, because he is one, maybe so is Lundy? * Slightly less logically, Lundy "has a vibe" about him which seems edgy... could be just that he's the Dexter's enemy and that's how they're playing it. * Deb is falling for Lundy, and she does have a track record with killers: her step-brother (Dex), her step-brother's brother (Rudy/Brian)... maybe a hell of a twist for the writers to take, but I think I'd let them make that twist once. (If I'm right, they can't play that card again in a third series though!) * Maybe, just maybe, Lundy has already recognised something in Dex and he's arming himself with a hostage (Deb). Yeah, I know, the theory is definitely out there... but go with it for a while... now, what do you think? Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	10. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 6:32 PM EST "OK, here's a stretch for you... does anyone else see the possibility of Lundy being a killer? * Dex is good at finding serial killers, because he is one, maybe so is Lundy? * Slightly less logically, Lundy "has a vibe" about him which seems edgy... could be just that he's the Dexter's enemy and that's how they're playing it. * Deb is falling for Lundy, and she does have a track record with killers: her step-brother (Dex), her step-brother's brother (Rudy/Brian)... maybe a hell of a twist for the writers to take, but I think I'd let them make that twist once. (If I'm right, they can't play that card again in a third series though!) * Maybe, just maybe, Lundy has already recognised something in Dex and he's arming himself with a hostage (Deb). Yeah, I know, the theory is definitely out there... but go with it for a while... now, what do you think?" Deb as a hostage huh? That is a great idea. I think it fits. But I reallly think they are just 2 lonely people that found each other. Deb is a Serial Killer magnet thats for sure. But does Lundy have a hstory of working with serial killer cases only, or just beig a great FBI agent and olving invoved cases. I can tremeber the beginning to see if that is his history or not. I think I still have a TIVO of that one I will have to go back and see. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Hanksfuture1stwife	11. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 6:33 PM EST Funny - I CAN see it! Ever since Keith was on Criminal Minds I can't help but see him as fairly dangerous - the actor did a damn good job! Convinced me! haha Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Morgaine	12. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 21 2007, 11:32 PM EST I kind of like that theory - the "it takes one to know one" twist could really work. Have any of you ever seen American Psycho 2, where this girl kills the first psycho and grows up wanting to be a profiler, and she kills her way through college to get into Quantico? It's the same idea. I like the idea of Deb being queer for serial killers. I also like the idea that she's ready to scratch Lila's eyes out. The one thing that I think would lend credence to this twist is the fact that Lundy went for her so quickly. Doesn't that seem a little out of character? Keith Carradine has been one of my favorite actors forever - it would be so cool if they really do something with this part. Who knows - maybe if Dex helps him tag Doakes as the BHB, Dex will get a job with the FBI! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	13. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 22 2007, 12:30 AM EST "Funny - I CAN see it! Ever since Keith was on Criminal Minds I can't help but see him as fairly dangerous - the actor did a damn good job! Convinced me! haha" LOL , I told my wife that very thing, a few episodes ago. I like Keith but he has never been able to last a whole season on any series. He was killed off on Deadwood. He could not handle more than a couple episodes of Wild West Tech, his brother David had to step in and finish that series. Poor Keith cant finish anything. So this is why I am having trouble being worried about him catching Dexter. He will leave the series just when he needs to step in and arrest The Bay Harbor Butcher. It will be David that will step in and do it. LOL He was very scary in Criminal Minds. I think he did a great job in that. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	14. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 22 2007, 12:39 AM EST "I kind of like that theory - the "it takes one to know one" twist could really work. Have any of you ever seen American Psycho 2, where this girl kills the first psycho and grows up wanting to be a profiler, and she kills her way through college to get into Quantico? It's the same idea. I like the idea of Deb being queer for serial killers. I also like the idea that she's ready to scratch Lila's eyes out. The one thing that I think would lend credence to this twist is the fact that Lundy went for her so quickly. Doesn't that seem a little out of character? Keith Carradine has been one of my favorite actors forever - it would be so cool if they really do something with this part. Who knows - maybe if Dex helps him tag Doakes as the BHB, Dex will get a job with the FBI!" This does work for me. I like the way you think. I had thought Lundy and Deb being so different was strange, But it was when Deb dropped her other BF to chase Lundy and how she so quickly switched to Chopin. I know she has needed a change, she has been through a lot. So it does make it credible that she would go through a complete transformation. But are you saying Lundy has his own Dark Passenger also? We are just now finding out about him on a personal level. We know he is super agent Rock Star. But now the man behind the image. The way he smacked Deb on the butt - Well he has done that before. I will bet he has leather underwear, and there may be a whip and extra handcuffs, MayBe!!!! I guess we will have to wait and see. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
GPuffer	15. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 23 2007, 1:35 PM EST "I like Keith but he has never been able to last a whole season on any series. " He is listed as appearing in all the rest of the episodes this season. The last two episodes will air about a month apart, #23 on Dec. 2 and #24 in January. Special Agent Frank Lundy is listeda as appearing in both episodes. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	16. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 23 2007, 2:55 PM EST I was Joking. Everyone is sooooo serious. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Morgaine	17. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 24 2007, 12:24 AM EST You mean they're going to drag this out until January?! There go the holidays, worrying about Dexter - ha ha! I want them to keep Lundy around for a while, or have Dex go work with him. I'd love to see them become allies, so that Lundy would never suspect Dex. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
GPuffer	18. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 24 2007, 1:34 AM EST Yeah, Morgaine, January. When I saw that I wanted to storm the studio. It's bad enough waiting a whole week, but more than a month is downright sadistic. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Morgaine	19. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win? Nov 24 2007, 3:49 AM EST Sadistic is the very word I was thinking when I wrote that. Unbelievable. That's a long time to go without seeing Dexter. I may be forced to buy some eps on iTunes if they don't show a lot of reruns - ha ha! Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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