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Morgaine
Morgaine
60. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 26 2007, 6:52 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2007, 6:52 PM EST
Dexter won't have a choice. She's going to go after Rita. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
61. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 26 2007, 7:23 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2007, 7:23 PM EST
"No reason to stick around unless Dexter slips up and Lila's body is found..."
I am not sure I understand - You wrote .... 'No reason to stick around unless' .... Are in reference to Doakes sticking around? or Dexter sticking around?

I really do not think Dexter will leave anymore DB's to be found.
I am sure he has learned that one from the last time.

If Lila body is found I will bet it was not Dexter that did the job. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
62. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 26 2007, 8:22 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2007, 8:22 PM EST
He should leave one - Doakes'. If he doesn't, the search goes on.

As for Lila - she deserves the table, but an overdose and a fire might be the most prudent approach. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
63. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 26 2007, 11:39 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2007, 11:39 PM EST
If he leaves Doakes body then they know the BHB was not Doakes and that he is still there. If Doakes is gone then they can tink the BHB is Doakes and he is gone. So they can pull up thier shop and move on. Case may not be closed but at least not active. the Heat is off or at least cooler.
Doakes should have a date with the BHB and be given a trip in the Oceans Gulf Stream and spread all over that part of the Ocean, but as for his body left to be seen, I dont think so. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
64. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 1:01 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 1:01 AM EST
IF Doakes disappears the hunt continues. If he's found with a bullet in his head, case closed as long as it looks self-inflicted. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
65. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 2:11 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 2:11 AM EST
"IF Doakes disappears the hunt continues. If he's found with a bullet in his head, case closed as long as it looks self-inflicted. "
Who will put the gun to his head? That does not go along with how Dexter does things. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
66. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 2:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 2:20 AM EST
Therein lies the problem, and that could get Dexter caught. He wants to play by the code, but he's in a situation where he really needs to just stage a suicide and get rid of Doakes. He's putting himself in danger unnecessarily. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
67. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 10:38 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 10:38 AM EST
Some ways this case can be closed is if the cops think that under the pressure of being found out, Doake's commits suicide. OR, if the cops take him out. Or perhaps if they find him and he's telling a story so wild blaming Dex that they simply will think he's come undone and is desperate, and they'll still go for a conviction on evidence.

It seems that the Lt has been warning Doakes for a long time that he's been closer and closer to the edge mentally, so Doakes has set himself up appearing capable of most anything with his lone wolf surly attitude.

For awhile this may work, but not with the Lt. She'll give Doakes the benefit of the doubt because she has special feelings for him.

If Doakes disappeared, it might be believable because he is special ops. He could have disappeared in Haiti (especially if there is no record of him coming back to the states from his last trip) as far as they know.

But I still can't believe that Dex is going to kill an innocent man. Doakes' focus has been on putting bad people away, which deep down Dex respects.

We shall see how far away from the code (except for the first rule) that Dex can slide. I think in the end, he will come undone if he forsakes the code and kills Doakes himself.

On the other hand, if Dex successfully sets Doakes up to take him down, even if Doake's is killed - so long as its by someone else, its still within the code.

We shall see! ;)! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
dexgal
dexgal
68. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 11:11 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 11:11 AM EST
jwnelson11, I think I meant the FBI wouldn't have to stick around unless Lila's body is found; sorry don't remember... Do you find this valuable?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
69. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 12:08 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 12:08 PM EST
"jwnelson11, I think I meant the FBI wouldn't have to stick around unless Lila's body is found; sorry don't remember..."
Thanks Dexgal I was mostly refering to Doakes. But Lila is still a problem.

What I was getting at and obviously I was not clear.
1-If Doakes was gone ie: BHB kills and puts body in ocean never to be found again. FBI (thinks he is BHB Right) would think the BHB took off as he was found out. Therefore Doakes would be gone as the BHB gone deep into hiding. Everyone of his friends would shake thier heads and go where did he go wrong. FBI would not stay in Miami looking for him after a reasonable lengh of time. Everything would remain quiet as now Dexter has learned to dispose of BHB victims in the Guld Stream and they are never found. This way Dexter would come out of it OK. Doakes would be taken care of, and business as usual. To me at this point Lundy is pretty convinced that Doakes is the man they want.
Lt LeGuarta is Doakes only friend / ali he would have her doubts but ll of the evidence against Doakes still makes him look bad. So if Doakes disappears the presumption is that he was the BHB, and went away to set up shop else where. It is simple but could work. Even with or with out a DB left, there would still be speculation that Doakes was the right person. But if Doakes were to disappear then Dexters Problem is gone.
Does that make sence now?
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Apocalypstickal
Apocalypstickal
70. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 1:39 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 1:39 PM EST
Both! Lundy is going to win by bringing in the BHB (Doakes) Dead or alive. And Dexter will win, because he will still have Rita, Deb and Lundy his possible future brother in law!! =)
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Morgaine
Morgaine
71. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 27 2007, 7:54 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2007, 7:54 PM EST
"jwnelson11, I think I meant the FBI wouldn't have to stick around unless Lila's body is found; sorry don't remember..."
What does Lila have to do with this? She's not on anybody's radar except Dexter's and Angel's. If Dex kills her, she's going in the Gulf Stream, end of story. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

LvilleDexFan
72. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 12:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 12:20 AM EST
Obviously Doakes has to die at the point of Ep. 9. He simply knows too much. That simple. How Dex will reconcile this withe The Code of Harry can be summed up real quick--"Rule one. Don't Get Caught." It's a sad thing that the cop who would probably most sympathize and understand is just too damn honest and upright a guy to not turn him in. That will unfortunately lead to his demise. What affect that will have on Laguerta remains to be seen.
Lila's mouth could definitely be a problem--particularly if she shoots it off to Batista at the wrong time. She's obviously a Pyromaniac--and Dex will eventually connect her habit to the deaths by fire she described in her life history. She IS a killer. Code of Harry satisfied.

Lundy's relationship, both with Dexter and his sister, is going to be the crux of the ending episodes. Will his relationship with Deb affect his pursuit of even Dex? Somehow I doubt that. He seems to be very capable, and frankly, I'm not convinced of the motives of his relationship. Poor Deb is just looking for a father figure; another sop to her rampaging feelings of inadequacy. It will end two ways; either he was just using her and he leaves her, or he dies.

I'm gonna try hard not to second-guess further than that--man, am I enjoying the ride! Do you find this valuable?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
73. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 12:33 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 12:33 AM EST
"Obviously Doakes has to die at the point of Ep. 9. He simply knows too much. That simple. How Dex will reconcile this withe The Code of Harry can be summed up real quick--"Rule one. Don't Get Caught." It's a sad thing that the cop who would probably most sympathize and understand is just too damn honest and upright a guy to not turn him in. That will unfortunately lead to his demise. What affect that will have on Laguerta remains to be seen.
Lila's mouth could definitely be a problem--particularly if she shoots it off to Batista at the wrong time. She's obviously a Pyromaniac--and Dex will eventually connect her habit to the deaths by fire she described in her life history. She IS a killer. Code of Harry satisfied.

Lundy's relationship, both with Dexter and his sister, is going to be the crux of the ending episodes. Will his relationship with Deb affect his pursuit of even Dex? Somehow I doubt that. He seems to be very capable, and frankly, I'm not convinced of the motives of his relationship. Poor Deb is just looking for a father figure; another sop to her rampaging feelings of inadequacy. It will end two ways; either he was just using her and he leaves her, or he dies.

I'm gonna try hard not to second-guess further than that--man, am I enjoying the ride!"
Lundy isn't using Deb. He could get killed, but he's a great character, so let's hope not. That doesn't mean he'll let Dex slide if he suspects anything.

I agree, Doakes has got to go, and I'm seriously displeased with what I'm seeing in the previews.

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OrdinaryfoolisNJ
74. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 12:58 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 12:58 AM EST
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Lundy's relationship, both with Dexter and his sister, is going to be the crux of the ending episodes. Will his relationship with Deb affect his pursuit of even Dex? Somehow I doubt that. He seems to be very capable, and frankly, I'm not convinced of the motives of his relationship. Poor Deb is just looking for a father figure; another sop to her rampaging feelings of inadequacy. It will end two ways; either he was just using her and he leaves her, or he dies.
"
Lundy dies? To what purpose though? I could see it in a shoot out with Doakes, but how does that progress the story? It would be a huge blow to Deb, and perhaps push her deeper into insecurities. Could be interesting, but I don't see how it benefits Dex. Do you find this valuable?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
75. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 1:21 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 1:21 AM EST
It makes no sense to me to have Lundy die.

It makes great comic sense to me to have Lundy marry Deb and we get to hear Dexter narrate while the ceremony is going on. That would be funny as hell. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
dexgal
dexgal
76. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 6:18 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 6:18 PM EST
That would be hilarious! Do you find this valuable?    
Morgaine
Morgaine
77. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 7:24 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 7:24 PM EST
"That would be hilarious!"
Think of all the FBI agents that would be at Lundy's wedding. Dexter would be surrounded by them, wearing his little tux, making his little remarks. It would be too cool. He'd have to make a toast - ha ha! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
elliemae71
elliemae71
78. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 10:40 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 10:40 PM EST
"Funny - I CAN see it! Ever since Keith was on Criminal Minds I can't help but see him as fairly dangerous - the actor did a damn good job! Convinced me! haha"
Dex is good at finding serial killers, because he is one, maybe so is Lundy?
* Slightly less logically, Lundy "has a vibe" about him which seems edgy... could be just that he's the Dexter's enemy and that's how they're playing it.
* Deb is falling for Lundy, and she does have a track record with killers: her step-brother (Dex), her step-brother's brother (Rudy/Brian)... maybe a hell of a twist for the writers to take, but I think I'd let them make that twist once. (If I'm right, they can't play that card again in a third series though!)
* Maybe, just maybe, Lundy has already recognised something in Dex and he's arming himself with a hostage (Deb).


What about way back farther when Keith played one of the Younger brothers in the movie The Long Riders? the James-Younger gang, Jesse James that is.

but as I was reading the post from Simon I was hanging right on and then got slung off at the hostage part. What if Harry was like Dexter? and that the something. What if Lundy is like Dexter, the gradute older version but getting ready to retire his off duty activities because he's getting too old to kill the killers by hand and cart them off and hide them. What about that twist Do you find this valuable?    
elliemae71
elliemae71
79. RE: Dexter V. Lundy - who's going to win?
Nov 28 2007, 10:47 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2007, 10:47 PM EST
"What are we going to do. I have them TIVOed. So I will be fine. I wish I had kept the first season. So I could go back and see some of the things I am fuzzy about.
Instead I will just watch all of this season again."
they've got season 1 at amazon for 29, 30 bucks. Do you find this valuable?    
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