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stoney10
stoney10
21. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 19 2007, 8:08 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2007, 8:08 PM EST
Where ever you saw that,,i wanna see...i agree though.This is the best epi Yet...Dexter will get caught after seeing morning comes,,But and there is a But..As we all know Doakes will get pinned for the Hugely Large Rap..But we also have to remember, there are other CLUES like the police log, Cassette tapes.and Doakes will come up with something he's too smart but 1 step behind.He might go to Lundy and say.how did i manage to drop the bodies in the harbor and i dont have a boat which Dex does..Bottom line Doakes will come up with a superior plan to get his ass back where he Wants to be Taking Charge !..Were all excited here aren't we... 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

Inato
23. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 19 2007, 9:46 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2007, 9:46 PM EST
Expect it appears that Doakes has a boat since he is going to dodge customs by using a boat to get onto the cruise ship without catching notice. Although it is possible that it is a boat that he rented, but that would leave a trail which he appear to be trying to avoid. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

JJATIB
24. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 19 2007, 11:15 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2007, 11:15 PM EST
Consider this... What did Doakes say his father did for a living? He told LaGuerta he should go back and do what his father did...he was a BUTCHER! The car that was signed out from the inpound had Georgia plates. Doakes is from Georgia. If they find the log, did Dexter sign Doakes name? 4 of the Bay Butchers vics were cases Doakes and Batista worked. One case was worked by Doakes and Batista and was solid but dropped due to sloppy blood work...Dexter. Could this be considered motive by Lundy for Doakes to dislike Dexter so much? LaGuerta was concerned with Doakes mental state after shooting 2 people in 6 months. The first person Doakes killed occured last season when he and Batista chased a man under an overpass. When Batista caught up to Doakes, the runner was dead. Batista heard 2 shots from 2 different guns. He assumed first shot came from the gun of individual Doakes was chasing. Batista was wrong. First shout came from Doakes gun and the 2nd from the vic. It turned out that the vic was a "bad guy" from Doakes Army days. Doakes claimed self defense. Batista covered this up and protected Doakes. The second person Doakes killed again was another army buddy. A wife killer. LaGuerta pleaded Doales to take Back up. He refused

The trailer to next week was done well. This is my prediciton for next week. Something will happen to drive search of Doakes home. The slids will be found. Dexter will be called in to examine the slides. If you looke close at trailer, Dexter is having one of those "out of body experience" talking in his mine when he says, "Sorry Deb". When he's walking in the police station he has his hands as if he is hand cuffed but there is nothing on his wrist. As he examins the slide, he is wearing rubber gloves. I agree, Doakes will be the lead suspect. I believe he will run and try to clear his name and it will be a chase between Lundy and Dexter on who finds him first. Great episonde.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
25. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 19 2007, 11:41 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2007, 11:41 PM EST
This show's getting outrageous! I absolutely love it again!

Does anyone else feel a little bit sorry for Doakes? I find myself doing just that. I mean, last season, they sort of made his character more human, what with him being used as bait to get Guerrero, him sort of having a thing for Deb, and showing the audience his family. He's always been my second favorite character, and he's not actually that bad of a guy, just a little excessive. I can't help but sympathize with him sometimes.

But obviously, if I had to choose between Doakes and Dexter, you know where I sit. Anyone else agree?
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cygnus100
26. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 12:24 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 12:24 AM EST
Well now, where to start? First of all; Doakes could look really guilty because we all know he has it in for Dex, and it could be beleivable that the would go to great lengths to set Dexter upwith planted evidence. But... Even if the blood slides are found to be Dexters' they WERE found through an illegal search and would be INADMISSABLE in court witch would get Doakes into a whole lot of trouble anyway for breaking proper procedure, illegal search and seizure,breaking and entering,blah, blah, blah,etc. So however you cut it Doakes is probably going to be screwed six ways to Sunday anyway. Wow!!!
It is going to be very interesting to see what happens next week. I can't wait to see if Dex is going to kill Lila (of course he is).
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Cyndawg
Cyndawg
27. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 1:33 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 1:33 AM EST
"This show's getting outrageous! I absolutely love it again!

Does anyone else feel a little bit sorry for Doakes? I find myself doing just that. I mean, last season, they sort of made his character more human, what with him being used as bait to get Guerrero, him sort of having a thing for Deb, and showing the audience his family. He's always been my second favorite character, and he's not actually that bad of a guy, just a little excessive. I can't help but sympathize with him sometimes.

But obviously, if I had to choose between Doakes and Dexter, you know where I sit. Anyone else agree?"
I do feel sorry for Doakes. He's repressing so much anger...guilt?...resentment...
And what ever DID happen to him flirting with Deb? I thought for sure they'd hook up somehow, but truthfully with all the other drama I forgot about that. I feel bad how he ditched his job interview too...he really blew it. My heart will always belong to Dexter, though. :)
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Cyndawg
Cyndawg
28. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 1:35 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 1:35 AM EST
"hey how can I see that "coming next week"?? I watch it on Directv and Tivo the original airing so I can watch it after the kids are in bed. Are you telling me the preview is only on on another airing. I know my recording goes straight into the next show which I thinkis brotherhood. I need teasers.. I want to see it!!!!"
I don't get the teasers for next week when I watch the show here in San Diego at 9pm on SHO. So I go to the SHO website and watch them as soon as the episode ends
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Cyndawg
Cyndawg
29. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 1:41 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 1:41 AM EST
"Oh my Lord! I think this may happen also:

Dexter had to leave the body in the wilderness so he could hurry to Rita's. Perhaps someone will find it, and they'll investigate that, and find out that Doakes has doesn't have an alibi for the time of the murder (he was breaking into Dexter's house after all when he should have been at the meeting with LaGuerta and that dude). Also, since he has the slides of blood, its not looking good. And also Camilla could attest that Doakes was asking for the police records (that she burned) that detail the guy that killed Dexter's mom, and who just so happened to show up dead.

I think I just convinced myself Doakes will be the Bay Harbor Butcher (to Lundy anyway)."
I also have a suspicion that the body he left in the woods is going to be found and led back to him.
1. Jimenez' coke clients will come to see where their stuff is at, and find the body.
2. Jimenez' past will be dug up and when they see he's tied to a chain saw murder (and now he's dead!) they'll suspect the butcher...getting sloppy
3. They'll see Dex's dad was on the case...and start tying it all together.
It's a long shot, but that's just what popped into my head. I just can't imagine the show abandoning the fact that Dexter left a bloody crime scene, and he still has Lila and Rita to deal with.
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rhyiet
rhyiet
30. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 3:33 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 3:33 AM EST
"Oh my Lord! I think this may happen also:

Dexter had to leave the body in the wilderness so he could hurry to Rita's. Perhaps someone will find it, and they'll investigate that, and find out that Doakes has doesn't have an alibi for the time of the murder (he was breaking into Dexter's house after all when he should have been at the meeting with LaGuerta and that dude). Also, since he has the slides of blood, its not looking good. And also Camilla could attest that Doakes was asking for the police records (that she burned) that detail the guy that killed Dexter's mom, and who just so happened to show up dead.

I think I just convinced myself Doakes will be the Bay Harbor Butcher (to Lundy anyway)."
okay i totally think that doaks is going to somehow get pinned for the whole bay buther killings, however in the teasers for next week, dexter says something about if they would have followed him and saw him dumping the body they would be doing more than watching him.

my prediction is that maria will go to see what happened to doaks because he missed his meeting and he will be gone with the slides, somehow a search for him will start and he will be busted. with all the evidence pointing toward him and no alibi, unless breaking and entering, stalking and obtaining evidence from and illegal search is good enough, he will be screwed.

as for dexter, somehow he has to get away with it, there are four epidodes left, i can't image this being the last season or a majority of next season taken place in prison. i remember earlier this year when they were reairing season one asking see how dexter would manage blah blah blah, while planning a wedding. i hope i wasn't making that voice in my head because of the book, does anyone else remeber that?
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sonuva555
sonuva555
31. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 7:05 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 7:05 AM EST
wow this episode has been one of the most exciting of this season. I can see where some people are going with Dexter possibly framing Doakes as the BHB. But the way i see it that would create a bit of a plot hole. Doakes doesn't really fit the profile of the BHB, Lundy already said that the BHB was extremely neat to the point of complusion, Doakes is the exact opposite hes emotionally rash and impulsive, he ran out of a car to shoot a war criminal in a public area , not neat at all. the BHB also has a boat most likely in coral cove, Dexter has one while from what we know Doakes doesn't. Also with the walking out on Lundy's interview to me it actually made Dexter look more suspicious as it seems to add doubt to Dexter's work on that case.
There are some clues in the preview of next episode which sort of leads to Dexter at least being tied as a suspect. the Feds go right up to Dexter's door if they just needed him to check the bloodslides immediately they would call or page him to get to the station immediately in the same kinda way as a requesting a ER Doctor whose at home. Plus the way his hands were held looks as if they were cuffed. One last thing is that Dexter's finger prints is all over the slide box.
Guess we'll just have to find out on Sunday. I do hope Dexter doesn't get caught it would seem rather wasted to end such a good series when its only on its second season.
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stoney10
stoney10
32. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 7:36 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 7:36 AM EST
I feel bad for doakes,,,he's the second best of the show,,,like i said he's to smart special Ops.he will not go down without a fight thats wat i believe anyways..To much is pinned to DEXTER he will go down and the SERIES will end "MY PREDICTIONS"..If you look at the titles for the up and coming epi all will be said....There's no way that they can TOP the 1st and last Seasons..Lundy is the smart character through out all of this..Everyones brain cells will come together..and lets not FORGET about Lila..she's starting trouble too..hanging out with the force bowling for Dexters head,,shes BAD news for him and his extended family..Lila will play apart in the Down Spiral,,but i hope she gets WACKED big time.Sorry Guys but i DONT think the show is going to LAST at all..Sorry Dexter but i like Doakes as well..Brilliant Character! 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
33. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 11:02 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 11:02 AM EST
"however in the teasers for next week, dexter says something about if they would have followed him and saw him dumping the body they would be doing more than watching him.

i remember earlier this year when they were reairing season one asking see how dexter would manage blah blah blah, while planning a wedding. i hope i wasn't making that voice in my head because of the book, does anyone else remeber that?"
You're right about the teaser thing. I did see that. It does seem like he may be dumping the body, however things are always taken out of context in those promos. We'll find out Sunday.

As for him planning a wedding, I'm afraid your just crazy. Thats the book talking to you (however they did come out around the same time).
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
34. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 11:11 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 11:11 AM EST
"wow this episode has been one of the most exciting of this season. I can see where some people are going with Dexter possibly framing Doakes as the BHB. But the way i see it that would create a bit of a plot hole. Doakes doesn't really fit the profile of the BHB, Lundy already said that the BHB was extremely neat to the point of complusion, Doakes is the exact opposite hes emotionally rash and impulsive, he ran out of a car to shoot a war criminal in a public area , not neat at all. the BHB also has a boat most likely in coral cove, Dexter has one while from what we know Doakes doesn't. Also with the walking out on Lundy's interview to me it actually made Dexter look more suspicious as it seems to add doubt to Dexter's work on that case.
There are some clues in the preview of next episode which sort of leads to Dexter at least being tied as a suspect. the Feds go right up to Dexter's door if they just needed him to check the bloodslides immediately they would call or page him to get to the station immediately in the same kinda way as a requesting a ER Doctor whose at home. Plus the way his hands were held looks as if they were cuffed. One last thing is that Dexter's finger prints is all over the slide box.
Guess we'll just have to find out on Sunday. I do hope Dexter doesn't get caught it would seem rather wasted to end such a good series when its only on its second season. "
I think you're right about the Doakes not fitting the profile, what with him being so outwardly agressive, but also he's a black male, and (with the exception of the Washington D.C. Snipers), serial killers are ALWAYS ALWAYS white males. So he has that going for him. However, if Dexter did decide to pin it on Doakes, he'd find a way. I have faith in him.

Also, a lot of people say Dexter looks handcuffed next week. I certainly see why you'd say that. However, I don't think he is. I think the director has him purposely standing that way perhaps to symbolize that Dexter thinks he's caught already and has given up. The weird camera angles of him being escorted out of his apartment can convey similar messages. Also, if you check him looking at slides in the station, he has gloves on. I'd imagine he's been called in to examine them on a hush-hush level, to see if its real blood, and if it is WHOSE blood is it.

As for the Feds going straight to his house to get him, insteading of calling him in (which would be more likely), we have to remember its a show, and they need to make it dramatic and to make it look like Dexter's been caught. I can stretch my disbelief for that. Can't you?
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kay256
35. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 20 2007, 2:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2007, 2:04 PM EST
It has been quite a trend recently followed by successful n popular TV shows to surprise the audience completely by showing one thing in the promos(especially involving the protagonist getting into trouble) and showing the complete opposite in the actual episode. Dexter is undoubtedly one of the greatest TV shows(according to me n many here)...After watching the preview for next week's episode..I felt that this is one of those times where the promos mislead you simply to surprise u later(as I mentioned before)..However now that I have read about the different possibilites of Doakes gettting framed .. it no longer is a possiblity for me ..I am pretty sure that's what's gonna happen...Doakes is gonna get framed instead of Dexter for many reasons..all mentioned by the others before me...father being a butcher will appear to be the reason why the cuts on the bodies were precise...maria would have checked out Doakes's place jus to check why he hadn't turned up and in the process would have found the blood slides..not to forget the incident where curtly behaved with Lundy ...Everything makes sense now..and points to Doakes being framed..No doubts in my mind... 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

DexMo----22
36. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 21 2007, 1:12 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2007, 1:12 AM EST
Totally agree on misleading previews.

Did anyone notice that in the Victim Files feature it says that Dex dumps senior Chainsaw into the Gulf? As in, he's going to do it somehow, even with all the cameras...
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GPuffer
GPuffer
37. RE: Thoughts about "Morning Comes"
Nov 25 2007, 1:26 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 25 2007, 1:26 AM EST
The great thing about "Dexter" is that every episode is the best one yet. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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