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1. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 1 2007, 11:46 PM EST
Presumably all Harry wanted to do was scare the shit out of Dexter so that the #1 rule would really mean something. As usual, you are thinking 2 steps ahead of me, though. There's so much more to this whole event than I have given any thought to. I'll ponder this some more and get back to you. Off the top of my head, I can't help but think that Harry would have known that watching someone die would be almost a first sexual experience kind of thing for Dexter.
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2. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 12:25 AM EST
I look forward to hearing your thoughts. I had this idea when we first saw it, but I didn't know if anyone would see what I meant. I was shocked that Harry would take him there.
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3. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 12:50 PM EST
"Was it right for Harry to take a teen-aged Dexter to an execution? Would that have scared Dexter or turned him on? Would it add to Dexter's trauma? Would it feed his need to kill?"I am sure Harry wanted Dexter to see what He was in for if he was ever caught. It may have been an attempt to care him straight. I would like to know when Harry did this. Like was it early on when he first found out Dexter had this fondness for killing, or was it after the Code of Harry was well instituted. If Harry did this at the beginning it may have been to scare him to stop his behavior OR this is what is in store for him. But if it was after Harry realized Dexter was going to do what his Dark Passenger wanted him t do any waythen it was probably to show him what the death penalty was really like. I do not think Dexter was turned on by it. Remember he was having flash backs of it at one point, and it did not look glamourized at all to me. like it was something he looked forward to. I think Dexter learned the lesson well that he is headed for the Death Penalty if he is ever caught. Was it right for Harry to do this, Well he was trying to teach Dexter to not get caught - The number one rule in his code. I do not think it feed his need to kill it probably emballished the need to not get caught. Again I keep saying this and I do believe it. Tha Harry loved Dexter so much he was doing everything in his power to save him, or at least prevent him from being caught. If harry ws doing the rght thing, well I think Harry was in Panik mode. He saw his son going down the wrong road, and harry did not know what to do. So he tried to teach him what to do, and a sort of damage control. Dexter should only kill those that really needed killing. and Dont Get Caught. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 1:41 PM EST
"I would like to know when Harry did this. Like was it early on when he first found out Dexter had this fondness for killing, or was it after the Code of Harry was well instituted."Harry first found out about Dexter when Dexter was around 11 or 12. The Dexter at the execution was the one who is, I guess, about 15 -17, so the Code of Harry was well instilled, and Harry at this point was not trying to turn him away from a life of serial killing. His penchant was by this time well established. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 5:05 PM EST
"Harry first found out about Dexter when Dexter was around 11 or 12. The Dexter at the execution was the one who is, I guess, about 15 -17, so the Code of Harry was well instilled, and Harry at this point was not trying to turn him away from a life of serial killing. His penchant was by this time well established."So, basically, the visit to the execution was to cement the idea of this is what happens if you get caught...? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 6:02 PM EST
"So, basically, the visit to the execution was to cement the idea of this is what happens if you get caught...?"That is what I think, If I remember correctly it did scare him. He had a look of horror on his face not of curriosity or desire to explore more. I think Harry was trying to impress upon Dexter not to get caught. I guess it was clear to Harry that Dexter was going to continue to enact upon his desire to kill. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 2 2007, 11:14 PM EST
"That is what I think, If I remember correctly it did scare him. He had a look of horror on his face not of curriosity or desire to explore more. I think Harry was trying to impress upon Dexter not to get caught. I guess it was clear to Harry that Dexter was going to continue to enact upon his desire to kill."That's what Harry was trying to do, but is that what it would have done? It did impress on him that he'd best not get caught, but the kid would have had a positive reaction to seeing that man die. We know Harry's intention - I'm asking whether Harry was right. Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 4 2007, 12:40 AM EST
"That's what Harry was trying to do, but is that what it would have done? It did impress on him that he'd best not get caught, but the kid would have had a positive reaction to seeing that man die. We know Harry's intention - I'm asking whether Harry was right. "I am not sure i understand. ........... "We know Harry's intention - I'm asking whether Harry was right." Right about wether it would feed his need to kill, or scare him enough to not want to be a serial killer? I know it has made him not want to get caught. I think this is obvious. Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 4 2007, 12:57 AM EST
In the very first episode, while on the boat, Harry said to Dexter that what happened to him got "planted in you too early" and was going to go stronger ... he then said something to the effect, "maybe we can channel it; use it for good," followed by the first mention of all the evil people who "deserve it" ... So the execution is way to late to be used to "lock in" Dexter's need to kill; it's pretty straightforward as a lesson of what happens to you when you're not careful ...
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10. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Dec 4 2007, 2:15 AM EST
"In the very first episode, while on the boat, Harry said to Dexter that what happened to him got "planted in you too early" and was going to go stronger ... he then said something to the effect, "maybe we can channel it; use it for good," followed by the first mention of all the evil people who "deserve it" ... So the execution is way to late to be used to "lock in" Dexter's need to kill; it's pretty straightforward as a lesson of what happens to you when you're not careful ..."Good point - the damage was done. I just wonder if he was more scared for himself than turned on by the kill. Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Mar 17 2008, 9:58 AM EDT
well he problably knew it would turn him on but it also helped him realize how important it was to not get cought. even if he liked it he would not want it to happen to him
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12. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Mar 17 2008, 10:00 AM EDT
yes very obvious. which is good because he desided not to turn himself in. that would have sucked.
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13. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Mar 17 2008, 10:04 AM EDT
but i dont think dexter was grasping the point. remember he was going to kill a kid on the basketball quort befor harry stoped him. i think the sight of the execution was compleatly necessary.
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14. RE: Harry, Dexter and the Execution
Mar 20 2008, 10:50 PM EDT
"Good point - the damage was done. I just wonder if he was more scared for himself than turned on by the kill. "I am not convinced he was ever turned on by the kill/execution. I think the turn is not the stopping of life so much as the act of killing. If I understand the personality correctly, it is the control they ave over life and death. The thrill of causing the life to end. The ability to end a life or actually the power they have over life, and the act of killing. This is the turn on rather than the actual death itself. I dont think they are as turned on by watching someone else end a life, but the fact that they have ended the life. Again I am no expert, but this is the reason I am so into this program. The serial killers desire to do what they do. It is something that I can not understand at all, and I am curious as to why they think they should have this power to end a life. Butt the kwel part about this show is the twist, that the serial killer, is kiling the serial killer. I like that part. It is that VooDoo that he do, Do so well. That is a great turn of events. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |