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animayhemz |
Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 1:36 PM EST
I noticed this and it completely ruined this series for me. In season 1 episode 3 "Popping Cherry" Dexter preforms his first kill on the nurse who is poisoning his father. Now in season 2 episode 10 "There's Something About Harry", it comes out that Harry committed suicide and apparently Dexter killed some pimp that got away with murder due to a typo in the search warrant. This murder happened 3 days before Harry's suicide. So I am asking who was Dexter's first kill the nurse or the pimp? And how did die Harry poisoned or did he kill himself? I know there is a writers strike but how can anyway not see that this doesn't make any sense, thanks a lot SHOWTIME for ruining your best show I guess I will have to go to watching HBO.
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animayhemz |
1. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 1:42 PM EST
Sorry about the typos I am quite angry and expected there to be an edit option following the posting. I apologize and hope my poor grammar is still able to get my message across.
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2. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 4:16 PM EST
The nurse was his first kill, and Harry poisoned himself. They couldn't have made it any clearer on the show so I guess that's your problem. Enjoy watching HBO.
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3. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 4:23 PM EST
The nurse was after Harry's death. The OP was not referring to Harry's death, but to the death of the pimp who killed the prostitutes. Dexter killed him. It was on last nights show.
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Inato |
4. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 4:26 PM EST
Do remember that after the nurse died Harry lived for another year or so and that is when the second kill occurred in the series. Harry poisoned himself and therefore committed suicide. The fact that Harry went back to work after being so close to death is suspect but fits with his personality.
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5. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 4:45 PM EST
Exactly, Inato. It was a 20+ minute scene in the first season. Harry alive, nurse dead, smiling, laughing, etc.
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Ms_Báthory |
6. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 4:57 PM EST
Thank you for the correction.
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animayhemz |
7. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 3 2007, 5:12 PM EST
Thanks for the correction I thought Harry died in the hospital because of the nurse poisoning I couldn't ON DEMAND the Season 1 episode to double check, I thanks for clearing things up.
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8. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 7 2007, 11:12 AM EST
Ok...I wondered about that myself. How it was that Harry died by his own hand when he had been dying in that hospital. Ok...but here's another question. Harry pretty much TOLD Dexter to kill off Nurse Death. But then later kills himself ater seeing Dexter's work? I mean yeah...I guess it's a bit of a shock to actually SEE Dexter do that...but seems a little nutty to me. *shrugs*
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Inato |
9. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 7 2007, 2:53 PM EST
Well, Harry taught Dexter the code but he never told Dexter how he should kill. I think Harry imagined that Dexter would do a quick stab and then dump the body, not that he would cheerfully dismember the body. The reality of Dexter's kills is very disturbing.
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animayhemz |
10. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 7 2007, 4:40 PM EST
While I agree the that reality of Dexter's kills with the dismemberment is very disturbing I do believe the methods were at least partially Harry's idea. He had to teach him how to dispose of bodies and evidence so he would not get caught. Remember that was the first rule of Harry's code, don't get caught.
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Inato |
11. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 7 2007, 6:03 PM EST
What Harry taught Dexter was how not to leave forensic evidence or garner suspicion, none of which requires cutting up the bodies.In fact, Harry would have discouraged Dexter from cutting up the bodies. Think about all of the different tools Dexter has to use to cut up the bodies. All of those tools leave special marks on the bodies. The more tools Dexter uses the less likely it is for him to just happen to have the same tool's as were used on the victims. Dexter's ritual is dangerously close to violating the code. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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animayhemz |
12. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 9 2007, 6:52 PM EST
I would have to disagree with Inato on this one the only way to safely dispose of the bodies is to cut them up if you just dump a body what can be easily discovered and identified Dexter would have be caught a long time ago. A whole body would be hard to transport and weight down.
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13. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 12 2007, 9:52 PM EST
Look at how similar Dexter and Brian's kills are. They're both influenced by their mother's death, and both seem to recreate that event as they slice their victims to pieces. Is it a stretch to think that Harry saw this? That he had a flashback to that day? That he did, in a sense, fail to save Dex from being controlled by that experience? *shrugs*
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Inato |
14. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 13 2007, 2:32 AM EST
Pretty much what I think.Dumping a whole body is common, it could be mistaken as something a gang is doing. But expertly cut up body parts? That is the work of a psychopath. Look at Castillo's wife, she was not cut up and Dexter was easily able to pass it off as the husband. The fact that he was willing to dump her whole shows that he believes he could leave them whole and not be caught and he was not worried that he broke one of Harry's rules. If Harry told him it was best to cut them up then it would have been mentioned in that episode. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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15. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 13 2007, 8:37 AM EST
Dumping one body might be mistaken for something a gang is doing but after about 5 or 6 bodies not the mention 30+ of Dexter are found the PD will start looking for a serial killer and it would be hard on Dexter. Not to mention the fact that dumping that many bodies are not getting caught dumping them would be extremely difficult. Having to use new sites for every kill.Harry had the boat and every thing Dexter did was regimented according his father not leave behind any evidence I believe Harry had to advise Dexter is some fashion how to dispose of the evidence. I would be ridiculous to think otherwise. Great Dad thanks for teaching me how to kill without detected but now what do I do with the blood and the bodies. What is psychotic is the pleasure Dexter has when cutting up the bodies and I don't believe they are expertly cut up like his Brother just sawed or chopped up for disposal. Not everything can be mentioned in the show if anyone has the read the books can comment it will be helpful. I plan on starting during the holiday. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 13 2007, 9:29 AM EST
"Dumping one body might be mistaken for something a gang is doing but after about 5 or 6 bodies not the mention 30+ of Dexter are found the PD will start looking for a serial killer and it would be hard on Dexter. Not to mention the fact that dumping that many bodies are not getting caught dumping them would be extremely difficult. Having to use new sites for every kill.I read the books...my advice don't go into expecting it to be like the show...if you do, you'll be dissapointed. Take it as a seperate entity. Thouh...the start of the first book matches almost verbatim to the start of the first episode of Dexter. After that it turns away. On topic....yeah...I think Harry must've told Dexter something about how to dispose of the bodies. No, I don't think they were as neat as his brothers. He could take ome cues from his brother perhaps...then they'd think it was a copycat killing...someone trying to emulate the Ice-truck killer. 2 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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17. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 13 2007, 6:39 PM EST
Lundy said in the show that the Butcher did it with precision. Remember Dexter has surgical training, one of the things Doakes mentioned.The difference between their techniques is that Brian did it with minimal blood but Dexter does it with a lot of blood. Makes you wonder how he gets rid of it all. Sure he has the plastic to keep it off the floor and walls, but what then? As for the number of bodies and being caught dumping, that is true whether he cuts them up or not. Dumping bags into the water is suspicious no matter their shape. They might mistake the smaller bags as drugs or something at first but it would still warrant an investigation if someone spotted him. This is covered by the first rule, don't get caught. Don't forget that he has to get his victim to the kill room and oftentimes they are unconscious. We have seen with Chino, that he puts them in the trunk when that happens. Disposing the bodies can be summed up in two words. 1. Don't let anyone see you. 2. Dump them where they can't be found. There are many ways that can be accomplished. Book!Harry does a lot of them, but we are not talking about Book!Harry. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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18. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 15 2007, 8:00 AM EST
"I noticed this and it completely ruined this series for me. In season 1 episode 3 "Popping Cherry" Dexter preforms his first kill on the nurse who is poisoning his father. Now in season 2 episode 10 "There's Something About Harry", it comes out that Harry committed suicide and apparently Dexter killed some pimp that got away with murder due to a typo in the search warrant. This murder happened 3 days before Harry's suicide. So I am asking who was Dexter's first kill the nurse or the pimp? And how did die Harry poisoned or did he kill himself? I know there is a writers strike but how can anyway not see that this doesn't make any sense, thanks a lot SHOWTIME for ruining your best show I guess I will have to go to watching HBO."The nurse was the first kill. In Season 1 Ep 3 "Popping Cherry" Harry tells Dexter to kill the nurse. At the end of the show Dexter narrates that Harry lived a full year after that before hardening arteries killed him. This left a full year where Dexter was actively killing people before Harry "died". It might of been that in Season 2 Ep 10 "There's Something About Harry" that this could of been the first time Harry had seen Dexter actually in process of dismembering someone. We don't know for certain but the timeline is accurate. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: Dexter's First Kill
Dec 15 2007, 3:09 PM EST
Since Dexter is built on the premise that things aren't always what they seem, I'm assuming we still don't know Dexter's first kill ... remember when Harry coached him to say the opposite of what he wanted to say when being interviewed by the psychologist? There was already an indication that Dexter had killed some animals ... I doubt that will ever be explored, because honestly, in some strange way, people in our society will get more upset and disturbed over the death of animals than humans ...So I'm not tracking exactly why you're upset with writers. Did I miss something? Was their some specific, precise, exact reference that "this" is the first kil? If not, go with the flow ... there'll be something earlier that shows up ... 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
