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65. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 13 2008, 4:13 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2008, 4:13 PM EST
"Doakes did comply. He wanted to join the task force, but Lundy didn't find him fit enough to join, which was fair enough, Lundy's playpen, Lundy's rules. In some way, it was like Doake's fate was sealed from the beginning of the season. He wasn't a part of the "team" anymore. I actually found him working quite well with Deb in season 1 after he got past his usual tough man hostility and even though I wasn't his biggest fan I did like Doakes, he did bring some humor to the show and that will be missed. He was a good character, but with him hunting Dexter and so on, his fate was sealed.
I do believe the issue with Doakes will be picked up next season, as said in my previous post Rudy remained in the first few episodes hanging over Dexter and Deb, meaning issues from the previous season needed closure. Rudy affected both Deb and Dex, but I'm not sure how much it would affect them this time around. No, this time it will affect others, LaGuerta mainly and Lundy also. I know it's called the Dexter show, but it's not all about Dex, it's also about the people around him and especially his sister, who seems to be his rock, who he also cares for and yet also fears unknowing what will happen the day she finds out the truth.
I'm also beginning to lean towards Deb finding out the truth about Doakes not being the real BHB. I think LaGuerta will get her involved and that somehow will get Lundy back in the game too. Pillowtalk or something!"
That is not complying with the investigation, that is wanting to be part of the investigation two very different things. It would have been expected of the killer to want to join the investigation so he would know what they know. That doesn't automatically make him a suspect but it certainly does not exonerate him.

You also have to think about his past. He was beaten as a child by his father, who was a butcher. He went into special ops where he saw the worse humanity has to offer. He joins the police and is shown to be very driven to catch the person responsible every time he is involved. He doesn't have a good relationship with anyone on the force, but Laquerta. Single and hardly visits his family. He is aggressive, violent and has become more and more agitated as the investigation continues. All of this without even going into th evidence against him. Doakes fits the profile of the BHB almost perfectly.

Now lets look at Dexter. He had a happy home life. Didn't spend time in a war zone. Has a good relationship with his sister, is in a serious relationship with Rita, he is friendly with everyone in the princinct, even tried to be with Doakes until Doakes pushed too far, he has a closer relationship with a few people, he does his job without showing a great need for justice.

Dexter fits the profile about as much, maybe a little bit more, as everyone else.

It is just harder to see this for us because we know the truth.
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dexgal
dexgal
66. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 13 2008, 8:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2008, 8:28 PM EST
"That is not complying with the investigation, that is wanting to be part of the investigation two very different things. It would have been expected of the killer to want to join the investigation so he would know what they know. That doesn't automatically make him a suspect but it certainly does not exonerate him.

You also have to think about his past. He was beaten as a child by his father, who was a butcher. He went into special ops where he saw the worse humanity has to offer. He joins the police and is shown to be very driven to catch the person responsible every time he is involved. He doesn't have a good relationship with anyone on the force, but Laquerta. Single and hardly visits his family. He is aggressive, violent and has become more and more agitated as the investigation continues. All of this without even going into th evidence against him. Doakes fits the profile of the BHB almost perfectly.

Now lets look at Dexter. He had a happy home life. Didn't spend time in a war zone. Has a good relationship with his sister, is in a serious relationship with Rita, he is friendly with everyone in the princinct, even tried to be with Doakes until Doakes pushed too far, he has a closer relationship with a few people, he does his job without showing a great need for justice.

Dexter fits the profile about as much, maybe a little bit more, as everyone else.

It is just harder to see this for us because we know the truth. "
very nice summary!
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
67. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 16 2008, 7:21 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2008, 7:21 PM EST
I found out where they will go now.

It will be to CBS in a short time. I can not remember the date. But I am sure it can be found on the CBS web site.

I am also sure it will be as sterile as Operating Room Surgical Instruments. I can not believe that CBS will allow some of the tings allowed on SHowtime. Of course KC, Rita and if all of o all that want Lila to return will not be showing her Bodatious TaTa's. Sorry MarksGForce. She will have to keep thier clothes on (if she does return).

I had heard it before I dd not believ it, But it is true. I saw it on CBS for sure.

So long Dexter as we knew him.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
68. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 16 2008, 8:49 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2008, 8:49 PM EST
Its just reruns on CBS. Not new episodes. Dexter as we know him is still gonna be all good come October (fingers crossed) on Showtime. Think of this as just, "Dexter Lite" 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
dexgal
dexgal
69. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 16 2008, 11:00 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2008, 11:00 PM EST
"Its just reruns on CBS. Not new episodes. Dexter as we know him is still gonna be all good come October (fingers crossed) on Showtime. Think of this as just, "Dexter Lite""
and I think it's only season 1, anyway, so marksgforce won't be missing out on Lila's purring...
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
70. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 17 2008, 11:00 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2008, 11:00 AM EST
"and I think it's only season 1, anyway, so marksgforce won't be missing out on Lila's purring..."
Well I assume that if Dexter on CBS does well enough, they'll probably continue to air episodes of it next year. So probably this time next year, we're all going to be wondering how they're gonna cut their way around Lila's "British Isles".
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dexgal
dexgal
71. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 19 2008, 5:37 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2008, 5:37 PM EST
"Well I assume that if Dexter on CBS does well enough, they'll probably continue to air episodes of it next year. So probably this time next year, we're all going to be wondering how they're gonna cut their way around Lila's "British Isles"."
good points...no pun intended
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kwlabelle
72. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 28 2008, 3:48 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 28 2008, 3:48 AM EST
Ok, here's what i think,
start developing over arching plots into future seasons. Lay low on the whole dex' past its been done for the first two i dont see why we should draw it out another.

One character that i think is really under developed is the captain, ties to the family, been around along time, lots of skeletons in the closet. Actually, it would be rather funny if he found out, and said "dex, your not the only one who's killed bad people." or somethin like that. Or that he knew dex was a killer from harry. But it shouldnt completely affect the whole outcome of the season, maybe a tag for the end of it would be best.

Next no matter what people say, you spend as much time with people as dex does with rita and the kids, you will grow attached to them, doesnt mean you'll cry when they leave but it does mean he'll miss them. Were going to see and should see more emotional development from dexter, and it should go on like it has in the first two seasons. He should bumble through it like before in the way only he can. That doesnt mean i want to see any remorse or him break down and cry, just see that he is starting to care.

I think a good idea would be to provide dex with a slightly high profile target, most serial killers escalate their killings, why shouldnt he? So we can have him do that for a few episodes, plan, screw up, the illusive kill and finally get his man, or woman. Maybe take down an innocent by accident? Once again he's not remorsefull, just questioning.

The one person asides the captain who i think could find out and not have a super big hoopla would be masuko, he'll he'd probably offer to help. And we should hook him up with a girlfriend, but not for too long, i'd miss his off handed humour too much.

I have an idea, what if someone close to dex kills someone and dex has to cover it up? That works for me!
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dexgal
dexgal
73. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Jan 28 2008, 5:10 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 28 2008, 5:10 PM EST
"Ok, here's what i think,
start developing over arching plots into future seasons. Lay low on the whole dex' past its been done for the first two i dont see why we should draw it out another.

One character that i think is really under developed is the captain, ties to the family, been around along time, lots of skeletons in the closet. Actually, it would be rather funny if he found out, and said "dex, your not the only one who's killed bad people." or somethin like that. Or that he knew dex was a killer from harry. But it shouldnt completely affect the whole outcome of the season, maybe a tag for the end of it would be best.

Next no matter what people say, you spend as much time with people as dex does with rita and the kids, you will grow attached to them, doesnt mean you'll cry when they leave but it does mean he'll miss them. Were going to see and should see more emotional development from dexter, and it should go on like it has in the first two seasons. He should bumble through it like before in the way only he can. That doesnt mean i want to see any remorse or him break down and cry, just see that he is starting to care.

I think a good idea would be to provide dex with a slightly high profile target, most serial killers escalate their killings, why shouldnt he? So we can have him do that for a few episodes, plan, screw up, the illusive kill and finally get his man, or woman. Maybe take down an innocent by accident? Once again he's not remorsefull, just questioning.

The one person asides the captain who i think could find out and not have a super big hoopla would be masuko, he'll he'd probably offer to help. And we should hook him up with a girlfriend, but not for too long, i'd miss his off handed humour too much.

I have an idea, what if someone close to dex kills someone and dex has to cover it up? That works for me!"
Two great points in your posts, one re: more info about the captain that we've actually been discussing in another thread, and two, that Dex has to be in the position of covering up someone else's kill...good job!
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S&man
S&man
74. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 1 2008, 8:02 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 1 2008, 8:02 PM EST
Late to the thread, as always, but I must say this predictions thread is far superior to the other, there are excellent ideas littered throughout these four pages. I’ll re-list a few of my favorites...
5. More about the Captain.
4. Doakes haunts Dexter.
3. More Matsuka … girlfriend or whatever, just more Vince, as I’ve said before, everything out of his mouth is a gem.
2. The new “Master” role of Dexter’s must be questioned or shattered – we all need to reconnect with Dex personally, no doubt. High and mighty = distant and cold. And most of the people I’ve met in real life who refer to themselves as “Masters” of whatever their trade may be, actually are missing some rather large lessons in fact, exampled in the sheer hubris of such a statement.
1. The journalist idea is pure GOLD, and everyone else seems to agree. I lost who originally posted the idea, but bravo. A journalist is “outside of the law,” no case needs to be re-opened, not warrants required for “staking-out” = trouble for Dex with a capital “T.” They’d also have to make the character someone the audience likes (opposite of Lila) a woman for sure, charming and relatable, but deadly to our boy. The possibilities here are endless.

P.S. The FCC is being lobbied hard to not broadcast Dexter on CBS. Although I am strictly, almost violently, opposed to censorship of any kind, and I recognize that any additional exposure for a program is usually a good thing, we all may not want to “look a gift horse in the mouth” here, and hope, for once, that the twisted moral majority wins this small battle. Tim Goodman, one of the top national TV critics, highlighted that an edited version of our show was not what the writers, actors, or even Jeff Lindsay had in mind – and I’m of the opinion that an artist’s intent should always be respected.

Long post short, end the strike ya evil producers. Then again, in the twisted world of TV, CBS would probably = Emmy. How unjust.
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Morgaine
Morgaine
75. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 2 2008, 7:46 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 7:46 PM EST
More than anything else, I want the loose end of the house Brian owned tied up. That's got to come back to Dexter, somehow. Brian was too methodical not to have made arrangements for Dex to get it - one more way to reach him from the grave. Do you find this valuable?    
dexgal
dexgal
76. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 2 2008, 9:58 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 9:58 PM EST
"More than anything else, I want the loose end of the house Brian owned tied up. That's got to come back to Dexter, somehow. Brian was too methodical not to have made arrangements for Dex to get it - one more way to reach him from the grave. "
Excellent point, Morgaine, it is definitely a loose end that I can't believe no one has connected to something yet; and I still think the Captain is more of a key figure than previously revealed, as well as Camilla...nice to see you posting!
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
77. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 2:43 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 2:43 AM EST
"Excellent point, Morgaine, it is definitely a loose end that I can't believe no one has connected to something yet; and I still think the Captain is more of a key figure than previously revealed, as well as Camilla...nice to see you posting!"
Wasn't it destroyed in the last hurricane? I think read that in the news that the house was destroyed, and that Dexter was listed as the sole owner and collected all of the insurance moneys. He is now trying to decide if he wants to rebuild, I think he applied to NBC, no it was ABC to haveExtreme Home Maseovers rebuild it complete with a silent room, with staionless steel walls for recreational use installed. It will air sometime in the 2009 season. If Ty Penington can fit it in.
So problem solved. We can go on with our lives.
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dexgal
dexgal
78. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 11:28 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 11:28 AM EST
"Wasn't it destroyed in the last hurricane? I think read that in the news that the house was destroyed, and that Dexter was listed as the sole owner and collected all of the insurance moneys. He is now trying to decide if he wants to rebuild, I think he applied to NBC, no it was ABC to haveExtreme Home Maseovers rebuild it complete with a silent room, with staionless steel walls for recreational use installed. It will air sometime in the 2009 season. If Ty Penington can fit it in.
So problem solved. We can go on with our lives.
"
jwnelson11, thank goodness you are here to keep us on track with all the little niggly details...actually, Ty Penninton would be an interesting addition to the cast, lol.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
79. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 10:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 10:16 PM EST
"Its just reruns on CBS. Not new episodes. Dexter as we know him is still gonna be all good come October (fingers crossed) on Showtime. Think of this as just, "Dexter Lite""
You mean to tell us, sitting there in front of your camera, with the popcorn in your lap, That CBS will run Dexters first season as it was run on Showtime? Wow How liberated the Prime Time Channels are now days, (or is it Daised).
I will put a little money on the fact that Dexter will not be what we have learned to love. There is no doubt in my mind that the CBS will make some changes. They have to. So I am willing to bet they may have taken liberty with the script also. I think they will make enough change that it iwll be different. But not so as to change the out come as we know it. But enough to make it interesting enough to watch for a modified Dexter. Ithink it will be a new program. I think we should call out the news media and the National Guard to spread the word that Dexter is now on Prime Time. I think it is new worthy - There is no way it should be just blown off as oh well it just the first season. The previews alone tell me it is diferent. I am all a titther , or a twitter ( I am not sure what I am now ) that this is a new program. It is a exciting as Super Bowl 23. Dexter will not be on showtime anymore it is owned my the Prime Time CBS t is all new and changed. No more Lila's bodatious tata's, or Rita climbing on her knees. No more words that begin with F and end in uck, Unless that say Firetruck of course.
Oh well I have lost my , what ever it was I lost.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
80. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 10:23 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 10:23 PM EST
"jwnelson11, thank goodness you are here to keep us on track with all the little niggly details...actually, Ty Penninton would be an interesting addition to the cast, lol."
I know it is a real problem, Ya see the show is now on CBS, and there is that conflict of interest cuz, Home makeover and Ty's contract is witha competing network. Ya see what will happen. Season 3 will start out with Dextertaking out the exec's of ABC to get the house and Ty's contract fixed. So the exec's at ABC may start to be worried. Now Dexter and Letterman will be the only thing on CBS to keep them afloat. So this is the reason for moving Dexter to CBS, to put him to work to strengthen thier ratings. I guess, who knows.. LOL I think I am missing my medication.
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dexgal
dexgal
81. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 10:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 10:44 PM EST
"I know it is a real problem, Ya see the show is now on CBS, and there is that conflict of interest cuz, Home makeover and Ty's contract is witha competing network. Ya see what will happen. Season 3 will start out with Dextertaking out the exec's of ABC to get the house and Ty's contract fixed. So the exec's at ABC may start to be worried. Now Dexter and Letterman will be the only thing on CBS to keep them afloat. So this is the reason for moving Dexter to CBS, to put him to work to strengthen thier ratings. I guess, who knows.. LOL I think I am missing my medication."
or maybe have had too MUCH medication...hmm? But lol!
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Morgaine
Morgaine
82. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 3 2008, 11:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2008, 11:19 PM EST
The commercials they're showing for Dexter are the original ones, aren't they? They look like what I remember from when teh show started.

I know on one of the other Showtime series, they planned ahead for the possibility that it might someday be shown on broadcast tv. There's probably a PG rated cut of Dexter they'll pull out and use. That show is on Logo now and it's so choppy I can't even watch it. Hopefully they'll take more care with Dexter since it's on a major network.

Personally, I won't miss Deb's cursing - it always sounds forced and unnatural to me. I really disliked her in the first season.
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dexgal
dexgal
83. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 4 2008, 9:10 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2008, 9:10 PM EST
"The commercials they're showing for Dexter are the original ones, aren't they? They look like what I remember from when teh show started.

I know on one of the other Showtime series, they planned ahead for the possibility that it might someday be shown on broadcast tv. There's probably a PG rated cut of Dexter they'll pull out and use. That show is on Logo now and it's so choppy I can't even watch it. Hopefully they'll take more care with Dexter since it's on a major network.

Personally, I won't miss Deb's cursing - it always sounds forced and unnatural to me. I really disliked her in the first season. "
Maybe you're right; it will be interesting to see it without all the profanity (at least it doesn't seem so forced as all the cursing in 'Deadwood!')...anyway, I'm so pitifully in need of a Dexter fix, I will probably watch it on CBS, just as though I've never even seen it...!
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
84. RE: Where do you think they'll go?
Feb 5 2008, 10:41 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2008, 10:41 AM EST
"Maybe you're right; it will be interesting to see it without all the profanity (at least it doesn't seem so forced as all the cursing in 'Deadwood!')...anyway, I'm so pitifully in need of a Dexter fix, I will probably watch it on CBS, just as though I've never even seen it...!"
Oh, that was my intention all along! I'm upset that they're totally killing the show (no pun intended), but I'm not ashamed to say I'll be tuning in (I'm not a Neilson family so it's all good).
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