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BlueMusic1
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140. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Feb 4 2009, 4:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2009, 4:22 PM EST
"I was such a fan of Dexter- but was very upset about Lila. I guess I am like the only person who actually loved the character Lila- she was his soul mate . People are quick to judge her, forgetting that they admire a serial killer (oh that's right he is a "good" serial killer"-lol) please- I like the show, but if it is cool with everyone for Dex to kill-why such the hatred of Lila? Is it because she is not making excuses for her true nature? I guess it is cool to be a killer only if you are a dude? He was going to do Doakes himself ,so that was a lame excuse to kill her. That was a great Gothic love story and I think a huge mistake to kill off that character. Rita is boring. "
I never liked Lila. She made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable, though I loved watching her on screen and looked forward to each episode she was in. I don't think she was a soulmate for Dexter, though she really understood the lonliness and isolation he endured over his secret life as a serial killer. However, unlike Dexter, who kills for the good of others, Lila killed for personal reasons, at first out of jealousy and rage, (at her old boyfriend) then later out of love (for Dexter). She was a great character, a virtual Black Widow. (Anyone notice the shadows on the ceiling in her room when she was in bed with Dexter? Exactly in the shape of a spider web.)

I LOVED Doakes! He had tremendous integrity and, like Dexter, lived by a code (albeit a more convention one), fearless and with conviction, right down to the end of his life. Remember when he found out Dexter was the Bay Harbor Butcher, he tried to talk Dexter into giving himself up, just as he did with the Special Forces guy who had killed his wife. He was not afraid to push the edge of the law, but he never crossed it. The writers of the show really let Dexter off the hook by using Lila to kill Doakes. I will miss him but not Lila.
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EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
141. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 9:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 9:01 PM EDT
"I was such a fan of Dexter- but was very upset about Lila. I guess I am like the only person who actually loved the character Lila- she was his soul mate . People are quick to judge her, forgetting that they admire a serial killer (oh that's right he is a "good" serial killer"-lol) please- I like the show, but if it is cool with everyone for Dex to kill-why such the hatred of Lila? Is it because she is not making excuses for her true nature? I guess it is cool to be a killer only if you are a dude? He was going to do Doakes himself ,so that was a lame excuse to kill her. That was a great Gothic love story and I think a huge mistake to kill off that character. Rita is boring. "
Your so wrong I don't even know where to begin.

This is gonna take two posts.

Part 1

First, Dexter was not going to kill Doaks. Initially that was his plan because rule number one is 'Dont get caught' but ultimately Dexter knew in his heart that Doaks had done nothing wrong. Dexter knew he was simply a good cop that knew too much, and this did not warrant his death.

Lila on the other hand had no problem killing Doaks the moment she realised that he was a captive of Dexter's. Doaks' life meant absolutely nothing to Lila, she killed Doaks simply because she thought it would bring Dexter closer to her. Pure selfishness.

Dexter has a psychological disorder that gives him this urge to kill, but he realises the value of human life and he understands the implications of death on loved ones and society. He has a completely healthy understanding of the world, he just has this dark urge. Lila had a delusional view of the world that would lead her to kill innocent people again and again. For this reason (and to fulfill his own urges) Dexter killed her.
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EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
142. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 9:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 9:14 PM EDT
"I was such a fan of Dexter- but was very upset about Lila. I guess I am like the only person who actually loved the character Lila- she was his soul mate . People are quick to judge her, forgetting that they admire a serial killer (oh that's right he is a "good" serial killer"-lol) please- I like the show, but if it is cool with everyone for Dex to kill-why such the hatred of Lila? Is it because she is not making excuses for her true nature? I guess it is cool to be a killer only if you are a dude? He was going to do Doakes himself ,so that was a lame excuse to kill her. That was a great Gothic love story and I think a huge mistake to kill off that character. Rita is boring. "
Part 2

Dexter researches every one of his victims before he kills them and he proves beyong a shadow of a doubt that his target is correct. Dexter himself can be heard saying something to the effect that his standards far exceed those of the justice system. Even when he has this proof Dexter shows signs of a conscious on certain victims in certain situations (the blind voodoo guy, the troubled teen in who Dexter saw himself). He only kills to fulfill his urge and only after the burden of proof has been lifted.

Compare this to Lila who killed Doaks on the spot, without even knowing who he was or what he had done to be put in that cage. Then she tried to kill Dexter himself along with two completely innocent children. She put the children at risk simply to put Dexter at risk by luring him in. COMPLETE SELFISHNESS.

By the way I'm sorry to dissapoint but Lila was not Dexter's soulmate. This was just another delusion that Lila created as a last ditch effort to convince Dexter. Simply put Lila was homicidal, delusional, and above all else selfish. Even if Dexter gave in to her she probably would have ended him killing him! Dexter saw this in her! It took him a while because she is good looking and knows how to "play the part"
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EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
143. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 9:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 9:23 PM EDT
Oh and Lila's lips bothered the hell out of me. I can't stand those flat duck lips. Do you find this valuable?    
EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
144. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 9:45 PM EDT
"she really understood the lonliness and isolation he endured over his secret life as a serial killer"

I think your misguided. That's how good Lila was. As a result of Harry's upbringing I don't think that Dexter is suffering. He dont think he feels lonely. He's fully aware of his condition and has no desire to share it with anyone else. He is content with satisfying his urges through a bit of social clensing. Lila on the other hand was a lonely tortured soul. There was simply no hope for her and we can both agree that she was uncomfortable to watch.

Simply put into laymans terms I think it went down like this:

Lila: I understand you pain and isolation, Dexter, because I suffer the same way. We are soulmates.
Dexter: *****, your crazy. Get the hell away from me.

This idea that Dexter and Lila were meant to be together is a delusion that Lila made up. So... you've been fooled. The writers of the show did a good job. :D

It's funny to read these comments about how "Lila was hott" and "I liked her". Well lets pretend for a minute that Lila is a real person in your life. I'm just wondering if you'd still like her while you were burning to death. I'm wondering if you'd be thinking about how sexy she is while you watched her try to kill you.

I know I'm gonna get some dumbass immature responses to this but we all know the answer is that we wouldn't like her at all.

Honestly though, the moment Lila gave us that barely noticable smirk of evil I knew Dexter would end up killing her and I couldn't wait for him to get it over with. It was so bothersome to watch her destroying peoples lives for her own benefit. I honestly think the person who started this thread in the first place has some issues of their own.
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EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
145. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 9:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 9:57 PM EDT
Sorry just one more thing I feel the need to clarify.

Dexter doesn't not kill for the good of others. Dexter kills because he has an urge to kill that he has learned to channel into killing people that deserve to die according to his farther Harry.

He said it himself the idea of this Dark Avenger is silly. He's not avenging anyone or saving anyone he just knows that people will care less upset about the death of the victims he choses rather then just some radom people.
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EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
146. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 10:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 10:00 PM EDT
If you think Dexter would ever kill Rita then you have one twisted mind.... Do you find this valuable?    
EmotionalFool
EmotionalFool
147. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 10:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 10:13 PM EDT
"She threatened the children, and Dexter would never hurt an innocent, which she intended to. It's against the rules. She also killed an innocent by making Doakes go BOOM. Her an her "****" had it coming. No that Lila is gone... i don't have to worry about my show turning into a soft-core porn!"
Agreed %100
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EmotionalFool
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148. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 10:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 10:21 PM EDT
"I dont think Dexter really wouldve offed Dokes. He wouldnt have been able to go through with it. Lila tried to kill Dexter, Rita and the kids and successfully killed Dokes. According to Harrys Code of Honor, Lila deserved to die. She was a shoddy character to begin with. Lila would kill anyone without any remorse. Dexter had every reason to kill her. But hey, who am I to tell you how to feel about a character. I just dont see how you can be so partial to someone like Lila if youre also partial to Dexter."
Did anyone actually watch the show?

Dexter's plan in the end was to frame Doaks as the BHB. Dexter was banking on the fact that the mountain of evidence against Doaks would outweigh anything Doaks actually had to say. This was clearly Dexter's plan until Lila blew up Doaks.

So.... Yes, I agree, I don't think Dexter would have killed Doaks. This was his initial plan but he clearly changed his mind and was going to let the police find Doaks alive. In fact you could even say it was Dexter's plan to keep Doaks alive, that Doaks' ramblings about Dexter being the killer would make Doaks look even more psychologically unstable.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
149. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 11:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 11:06 PM EDT
"Oh and Lila's lips bothered the hell out of me. I can't stand those flat duck lips."
I agree the lips ( Good one Duck Lips - I did not see that But you are correct ) She reeally needs to see and Orthodontist.. Weasel eyes...
Sorry I may not be a prize either But those did bother me. I liked the way she rolled her Rrrr's though, and the British accent is OK also....
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
150. RE: I will miss Lila and even Doakes
Oct 20 2009, 11:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2009, 11:19 PM EDT
""she really understood the lonliness and isolation he endured over his secret life as a serial killer"

I think your misguided. That's how good Lila was. As a result of Harry's upbringing I don't think that Dexter is suffering. He dont think he feels lonely. He's fully aware of his condition and has no desire to share it with anyone else. He is content with satisfying his urges through a bit of social clensing. Lila on the other hand was a lonely tortured soul. There was simply no hope for her and we can both agree that she was uncomfortable to watch.

Simply put into laymans terms I think it went down like this:

Lila: I understand you pain and isolation, Dexter, because I suffer the same way. We are soulmates.
Dexter: *****, your crazy. Get the hell away from me.

This idea that Dexter and Lila were meant to be together is a delusion that Lila made up. So... you've been fooled. The writers of the show did a good job. :D"
Like you say Dexter has his rules, does his homework and determines if they are Kill worthy or not. He choses the Bad ones and the ones that are beyond hope of rehabilitation or that have excaped the normal system of punishment.
Lila would kill if it suited her whim. Killig Doakes was not because he deserved to be killed, but because he would get in the way of her ultimate goal. Dexter...
Your posts are great Completely understands the problems I agree with you for the most part. Just do not know what you are coming downon others who are posting. We are all on here to do the same thing. To discuss and undstand Dexter et al.
Lila was not very attractive at all in my book. I think peopleonfuse a littel skin with being hot. If James Belushi went on here naked would he be hot?? I know bad analagy. But Because she was naked she was hot. That is the only way I can see it
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