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BottleBlondellg@aol.
Poor Doakes.
Apr 8 2008, 11:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 8 2008, 11:30 PM EDT
Seriously limited in his role so far. Stereo-typical "angry" black man. Attitude all over the place. Come on guys, ya'll can do better!! 3  out of 19 found this valuable. Do you?    
Comish91910
Comish91910
1. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 5 2008, 4:37 AM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 4:37 AM EDT
I quite agree, Doakes is not only a Stereo-typical "angry" black man, he is a very stupid character. he makes the show look second rate. You would never see a character like his on " Criminal Minds" . He's "Hokey Dokes" a low class, no class cop. He is the best reason to forget the show. 1  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
CKrelax
CKrelax
2. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 5 2008, 12:11 PM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 12:11 PM EDT
"I quite agree, Doakes is not only a Stereo-typical "angry" black man, he is a very stupid character. he makes the show look second rate. You would never see a character like his on " Criminal Minds" . He's "Hokey Dokes" a low class, no class cop. He is the best reason to forget the show. "
Actually, I think the somewhat of a bully attitude that shows limited patience for what Doakes sees as mistakes in coworkers, is right on for the muscle bound ex-special op cop. Black or white doesn't matter, I think his persona fits regardless of race. He is an in your face kinda guy that is hot tempered and bound to step into "it", sooner or later.
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tweetykiss
tweetykiss
3. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 5 2008, 3:08 PM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 3:08 PM EDT
He really is a you know what. Wish he would lay off Dexter and now he is stalking him. Doakes should get suspended for that one. 0  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
mdcoolbaugh
mdcoolbaugh
4. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 10 2008, 4:45 AM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2008, 4:45 AM EDT
"Actually, I think the somewhat of a bully attitude that shows limited patience for what Doakes sees as mistakes in coworkers, is right on for the muscle bound ex-special op cop. Black or white doesn't matter, I think his persona fits regardless of race. He is an in your face kinda guy that is hot tempered and bound to step into "it", sooner or later."
You nailed it perfectly for an ex-military goin to civilian job. I see it in myself (though not to that extreme)I just got out of the Marines and all I see is lazy losers in my workplace. I only ever see the problems with my coworkers and I have no problem voicing my opinions on them.
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Breakmywindows
Breakmywindows
5. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
May 11 2008, 2:47 PM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2008, 2:47 PM EDT
...keeping in mind La Guerta has coddled his temperment, and allowed him to get away with poor habits of interaction, which are not limited to Dex alone. Doakes has been a man on a mission - that in itself can wind a person up. Kudo's to the writers who have obviously succeeded in alienating him. I know men of high testosterone, (Doakes IS bald lol) and prideful people come in ALL colors.
BottleB...who (what actor) could have better portrayed /conveyed Doake's roll?
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BottleBlondellg@aol.
6. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
May 12 2008, 2:22 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2008, 2:22 PM EDT
I DON"T BELIEVE THE ACTOR IS AT FAULT> THE WRITERS<LOVE YOU GUYS> DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS CHARACTER 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
troubleshooterbts
troubleshooterbts
7. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 12 2008, 6:40 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2008, 6:40 PM EDT
"He really is a you know what. Wish he would lay off Dexter and now he is stalking him. Doakes should get suspended for that one."
What is a "you know what"? Doakes is one of the reasons that Dexter has to watch his actions more than ever in Season II. The guy was Special Ops and the persona Eric King takes on is that of a fallen high status official. Remember La Guerta beat him out of her position by getting lucky.

The only male in a family of women either makes you soft of toughens the hell out of you. Any fatherless child would know that.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
8. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 13 2008, 7:22 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2008, 7:22 PM EDT
"Actually, I think the somewhat of a bully attitude that shows limited patience for what Doakes sees as mistakes in coworkers, is right on for the muscle bound ex-special op cop. Black or white doesn't matter, I think his persona fits regardless of race. He is an in your face kinda guy that is hot tempered and bound to step into "it", sooner or later."
You mean you do not want a spin off about what made Doakes so angry?
Like Doakes the Early Years?
I was on a different thread and there was talk about how wonderful Doakes was and how they missed him. Well I put my foot in my mouth and said I did not. I really Pissed Off a lot of people on that thread.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
9. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 13 2008, 7:28 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2008, 7:28 PM EDT
I want to post a question to ya'all, since we seem to be some people that are like minded. Please let me know what you think!
Is this a definition of Doakes?, or something closer to what he presents that a basket full of fluffy bunnies?
noun: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. I realize it is not an exact description but closer than most.
Please let me know what you think. I will tell you what the definition is related to.
Thanks.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
10. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
May 13 2008, 7:31 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2008, 7:31 PM EDT
"I DON"T BELIEVE THE ACTOR IS AT FAULT> THE WRITERS<LOVE YOU GUYS> DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS CHARACTER"
I think we all realize this is a character, and to give him all of the kudos he deserves he nails it. To have actually made all of us feel the way we do about the chacter, means the actor does a great job. I dont think any of us hate the actor, but the chacter is what we do not like.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
11. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 13 2008, 7:33 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2008, 7:33 PM EDT
"What is a "you know what"? Doakes is one of the reasons that Dexter has to watch his actions more than ever in Season II. The guy was Special Ops and the persona Eric King takes on is that of a fallen high status official. Remember La Guerta beat him out of her position by getting lucky.

The only male in a family of women either makes you soft of toughens the hell out of you. Any fatherless child would know that."
I think you mean the captain got lucky didn't he? Didnt they have some belly bumping time together and she was promoted. Then she started to show how smart she was and got demoted? I am not sure but I think that is how it happened.
The captain got lucky, know what I mean......? wink wink
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Breakmywindows
Breakmywindows
12. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 14 2008, 3:42 AM EDT | Post edited: May 14 2008, 3:42 AM EDT
"...Poor Doakes vs Poor Dexter......"
( Dexter being pigeon-holed as the sterio-typical white passive / "seemed like a nice, quiet neighbor, likes dogs" murderer.) JOKE.
Who can say the highs are too high, and the valleys too low? THIS IS THE RIDE. Doakes is just as extreme left as Dexter is to the right. I think it is the contrast of these two that brings the dimension and crazy to those of us on the roller-coaster. Those of us genuinely tied in for the the thrill of it. I also think it did take both Doakes and Lila to counter balance the Dexter.
Luv ya. the Beemer

PS. no matter how much kickin' and screamin' you give it - it all goes the way of the tracks.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
13. RE: Poor Doakes.
May 18 2008, 2:17 PM EDT | Post edited: May 18 2008, 2:17 PM EDT
"You nailed it perfectly for an ex-military goin to civilian job. I see it in myself (though not to that extreme)I just got out of the Marines and all I see is lazy losers in my workplace. I only ever see the problems with my coworkers and I have no problem voicing my opinions on them."
Identifying the problem is half the cure, lol. I do not understand why the black card is always played when a black man has an attitide? Doakes is a great character with a normal "afer service" attitude. Thanks for verifyiing that fact, mdcoolbaugh!
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Ronny_J_Bullsh*t
Ronny_J_Bullsh*t
14. RE: Poor Doakes.
Dec 28 2008, 11:33 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2008, 11:33 AM EST
I disagree. I've known a few guys like Doakes and only one was black. The others were Italian and Polish. The stereotypical angry black man is the Nation of Islam black radical that spouts socio-political rhetoric about "The Man" . Doakes is just an aggressive person with anger issues. It's more of a male stereotype than an ethnic stereotype. Do you find this valuable?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
15. RE: Poor Doakes.
Dec 28 2008, 3:32 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2008, 3:32 PM EST
To me this describes Doakes, it is from the dictionary and i will tell you what it is if anyone asks.

noun: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

I realize it is not an exact description but closer than most. He is all over Dexter and a number of others, I don't think he is a stereo typical Angry Black male. But he is an angry frustrated male. Black is not exactly a key component or necessary. I have seen others that are this way and they are Caucation and Oriental (Korean's Mostly - Go Figure). Not so much Latin though.

If you are interested in the definition, let me know. I will tell you what the definition is related to.
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polarstorm
polarstorm
16. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
Jan 10 2009, 12:03 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 10 2009, 12:03 AM EST
"I DON"T BELIEVE THE ACTOR IS AT FAULT> THE WRITERS<LOVE YOU GUYS> DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS CHARACTER"
It's Doh vs Dex. He's there for a reason. The classic brains vs brawn dilema/contrast. Brains owned brawn as it was stated and proven after all was said and done. Even when clearly brawn was brain's superior at the job, brains' owned him. What great contrast. Also emotional fly off the handle Doh vs controlled cold calculating Dex.. great character contrasting!
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
17. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
Jan 10 2009, 11:14 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 10 2009, 11:14 AM EST
"It's Doh vs Dex. He's there for a reason. The classic brains vs brawn dilema/contrast. Brains owned brawn as it was stated and proven after all was said and done. Even when clearly brawn was brain's superior at the job, brains' owned him. What great contrast. Also emotional fly off the handle Doh vs controlled cold calculating Dex.. great character contrasting!"
I have to give them both equal doses of Brains and Brawn. Doakes has the Peanut Muscles that pop up with definition, while Dex is no Bookish Nerd even though that is what Doakes wants us to think. Dex has good muscle tone and it is obvious that he has worked out a time or two.
I still say it is not Brawn vs Brains. It is A Bully that can not beat up the Geek. Doakes thinks he is all powerful. but Dex has the hidden weapon, as he is unassumeing, and has as much power as Doakes just not pumped up like Doakes.

Doakes is no dumby, He knows that Dexter is not what he appears. he is just a Bully and will not shut up or stop harrassing him to figure it out. If were as easy as a contrast of Brain vs Brawn. I wonder if Dex has more brawn as he did beat up Doakes three times that I remember. Doakes had not been able to physically take Dex ever. It is obvious that Dexter has more skills and maybe more brawn as he did win the battles between them.
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crocdundee
crocdundee
18. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
Jan 11 2009, 8:35 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 11 2009, 8:35 PM EST
" It is obvious that Dexter has more skills and maybe more brawn as he did win the battles between them."
season 2 is just airing again in Australia and i am looking forward to watching the whole thing play out again between the two.My favourite season by far.
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polarstorm
polarstorm
19. RE: Poor Doakes. "...yeah, um NOT so much."
Jan 11 2009, 11:51 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 11 2009, 11:51 PM EST
"I have to give them both equal doses of Brains and Brawn. Doakes has the Peanut Muscles that pop up with definition, while Dex is no Bookish Nerd even though that is what Doakes wants us to think. Dex has good muscle tone and it is obvious that he has worked out a time or two.
I still say it is not Brawn vs Brains. It is A Bully that can not beat up the Geek. Doakes thinks he is all powerful. but Dex has the hidden weapon, as he is unassumeing, and has as much power as Doakes just not pumped up like Doakes.

Doakes is no dumby, He knows that Dexter is not what he appears. he is just a Bully and will not shut up or stop harrassing him to figure it out. If were as easy as a contrast of Brain vs Brawn. I wonder if Dex has more brawn as he did beat up Doakes three times that I remember. Doakes had not been able to physically take Dex ever. It is obvious that Dexter has more skills and maybe more brawn as he did win the battles between them."
humm.. good point, he is no dumby for sure, after all, presumably he was the only one in the entire department that had an instinct/intuition for Dex being up to something, whereas nobody else seemed to. But relatively speaking, he 'is' not more clever than Dex.. he's also very jumpy.. i.e. still not clear (to me) re what really happened under the bridge.
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