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rcall0230

rcall0230
Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 22 2008, 9:15 AM EDT
We know dexter's bio dad is joe driscol, so who is brian's dad. Maybe when harry saved dexter he thought it was his kid and left the other one behind. 6  out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?    
tweetykiss
tweetykiss
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 22 2008, 11:55 PM EDT
"We know dexter's bio dad is joe driscol, so who is brian's dad. Maybe when harry saved dexter he thought it was his kid and left the other one behind."
Wow, Never thought of that possibility. I always thought they had the same father. We know that Brian killed Joe Driscol and his neighbor. I was also wondering why it never hit the news that Joe's neighbor died.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 26 2008, 3:39 PM EDT
"Wow, Never thought of that possibility. I always thought they had the same father. We know that Brian killed Joe Driscol and his neighbor. I was also wondering why it never hit the news that Joe's neighbor died."
Remember, Joe Driscoll did not live in the same city. They had to travel I believe 2 hours to get to Joes house. So it is possible that she was in the paper, and is being investigated to the fullest, It is just not in Miami.
I had posted this a long time ago about Harry and Dexter's possible link. this was before they introduced Joe to the series, so that broke my thoughts.
Laura was a prositute and i am sure it was one of those 'surprises'. But also we don't know if she was ever married. We know nothing of her early years. I am sure if the writers felt it was important they would have introduced it. It seems to me that Dexter was picked up for one of a number of reasons: 1-He may have been the closet to the door, or easier to carry as he was smaller 2-Harry was so close to Laura meaning as a friend as she was one of his snitches and Dex being so small Harry must have gotten to know Dex better that Rudy and Harry bonded to Dexter 3-Dexter may have been to most pityful looking one as he was so young. 4-Maybe Laura asked Harry to look after him at one time. 5-Maybe Harry was going to go back but could not cuz of the time factor, when he got Dex stashed, everyone was there then and could not get Rudy out. 6-Harry may not have liked Rudy for some reason. I do not think we will ever find out about this. Moot point.
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rcall0230

rcall0230
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 29 2008, 6:44 AM EDT
Yeah good point, do you think they reveal why joe driscoll didn't adopt dexter or how harry blackmailed/paid him off so he could have dexter. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 30 2008, 12:00 AM EDT
"Yeah good point, do you think they reveal why joe driscoll didn't adopt dexter or how harry blackmailed/paid him off so he could have dexter."
I think Joe was not interested in a long term relationship with Laura. So that part was probably not a problem. But what I never understood was how Harry knew who Joe Driscol was, meaning. Dexter needed a blood transfusion right?, and Harry goes out and gets Driscol to donate blood for Dexter. So if Laura was the prostitute we believed her to be, and if Dexter was a 'Surprise', how did Harry know to go to Driscol for his blood?
So your questions are valid, but I had more questions than you. i can not figure that part out. Joe Driscol must have been a part of Laura's life and may have been the father of both boys after all. If he was married/related to Laura some how. I am sure there are people out there that can answer this.
I just watched the end of the season again, (I miss so much and I have seen thsi series for about 5 times now) Anyway I saw that Brian told Dexter that Harry looked at Rudy when he picked up Dexter, and saw that Brian was too far gone to be saved. (I was paraphrasing that a bit of course).
Harry had decided not to take Brian because of the way he looked at the murder site.
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elliemae71
elliemae71
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 30 2008, 7:35 PM EDT
"We know dexter's bio dad is joe driscol, so who is brian's dad. Maybe when harry saved dexter he thought it was his kid and left the other one behind."
I have always thought, wondered wanted Harry to be Dex's dad after they showed he knew Dex's mom. I thought it was almost cold when Harry picked up Dex, pulling the boys apart with Dex calling for Brian, all he had left and not taking both boys together, at least from the scene anyway. Maybe he was thinking Dex was young enough not to remember and Brian would help him always remember because he was old enough to remember it all. I don't know. And I wonder where Brian went for all those years. He resented the fact that Dex had a family. He was doing all these things to get Dex to remember, but he was cutting all ties to any family except him. I feel sure he murdered Joe. Deb was all that remained. Had Harry still been alive he would have killed him too, or tried to.

The guy Dex killed in season two was one of the three surviving murders of his mom and the one that saw Harry meet her in the park. They hinted in one of the flash backs that Harry and Laura were romantically involved. Laura may have told Harry the boys real father in conversation, and also if Harry had feelings for her and had promised to protect her, he was trying to protect what was left of her, or part of it anyhow.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Jun 30 2008, 8:44 PM EDT
"I have always thought, wondered wanted Harry to be Dex's dad after they showed he knew Dex's mom. I thought it was almost cold when Harry picked up Dex, pulling the boys apart with Dex calling for Brian, all he had left and not taking both boys together, at least from the scene anyway. Maybe he was thinking Dex was young enough not to remember and Brian would help him always remember because he was old enough to remember it all. I don't know. And I wonder where Brian went for all those years. He resented the fact that Dex had a family. He was doing all these things to get Dex to remember, but he was cutting all ties to any family except him. I feel sure he murdered Joe. Deb was all that remained. Had Harry still been alive he would have killed him too, or tried to.

The guy Dex killed in season two was one of the three surviving murders of his mom and the one that saw Harry meet her in the park. They hinted in one of the flash backs that Harry and Laura were romantically involved. Laura may have told Harry the boys real father in conversation, and also if Harry had feelings for her and had promised to protect her, he was trying to protect what was left of her, or part of it anyhow. "
I just saw the answer to your posting last night (I explained it the posting above).
Harry saw how broken Brian was when he picked up Dexter.. Brian was too far gone to be saved, Harry thought or hoped Dexter was young enough to be saved. Not be so tainted by the gruesome murder and dismemberment of his mother in front of him.
Brian went to a 'nut house' as he called it, and he pretended to be sane in order to get out. He was also in a number of foster homes, and then turned in because they could not or did not want him any more. Brian had a horrible time of it. After he was set free from the Psych Hospital. He was able to live his life, and no one explained the time frame for this either. I am not sure how long he was out of the Psych Hosp. or how many people he killed and where he was. Apparently he tracked Dexter down.so there was a time lapse in that. also.
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JellyBeaner

JellyBeaner
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Aug 29 2008, 10:34 PM EDT
You got it backwards. Harry's motivation to take one boy and not both was he wanted to keep HIS son. The other guy no one ever saw was likely Brian's Dad. Do you find this valuable?    
jwnelson11
jwnelson11
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Aug 30 2008, 7:01 PM EDT
"You got it backwards. Harry's motivation to take one boy and not both was he wanted to keep HIS son. The other guy no one ever saw was likely Brian's Dad."
Naw! Dexter was Joes son. Harry was just a friend of his mother. Laura was his snitch, and Harry got to know her very well, ( I mean very well if you know what I mean) But the DNA shows all that Joe was Dex's Dad. It all on the show I am not making it up. Of all of the things that are speculated about. This one was proven. Not up for speculation.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Aug 30 2008, 7:04 PM EDT
"You got it backwards. Harry's motivation to take one boy and not both was he wanted to keep HIS son. The other guy no one ever saw was likely Brian's Dad."
You did get that right about Brian's dad. He was the one we never saw....... Dexter was Harry's son His Adopted Son..... He just did not know it at the time he was saving him.
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dexgal
dexgal
RE: Is harry brian/rudy dad?
Thursday, 11:27 PM EDT
"Naw! Dexter was Joes son. Harry was just a friend of his mother. Laura was his snitch, and Harry got to know her very well, ( I mean very well if you know what I mean) But the DNA shows all that Joe was Dex's Dad. It all on the show I am not making it up. Of all of the things that are speculated about. This one was proven. Not up for speculation."
But it is JUST possible that Brian could've been Haryry's natural child, isn't it? One more secret Harry had to keep....and I really don't know that we should characterize Laura as a prostitute--yeah, she did some hooking to pay for the drugs, but....I know, I'm splitting hairs!
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