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aanodide
aanodide
asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Jul 17 2008, 12:31 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 12:31 AM EDT
Is Mr. Hall known to be hetro or homo (sexual) ? I don't suppose it matters in a strictly moral sense, but curiosity is a strong thing. On the one hand lots of people - well practically everyone I meet - thinks I'm gay but oddly enough I'm not. I think it would be cool if Mr. Hall is straight, but lots of statistics - just going by the numbers - I'd suspect maybe he's not. I'm not going to ask the guy (duh) but part of the price you pay for getting famous is having people out there that you don't even know wondering things about you personal life - that's just the way it goes.

So what's the scoop?

Aaron
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Theomanic
Theomanic
1. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Jul 17 2008, 1:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 1:02 AM EDT
He says he's straight, and nothing out there seems to be arguing with that statement that I am aware of. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
T-Diamond
T-Diamond
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Jul 17 2008, 10:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 10:50 AM EDT
I would have to say no, Michael C Hall is not gay. Number one, he was married to Amy Spanger for at least four years and is currently been rumored, and i say rumored because i am not quite sure if it is true or not, to be dating his co-star Jennifer Carpenter. Yes you could say that these are all "cover" relationships or that he just hasn't admitted it yet but i don't think so. People just assume someone is gay if they have been in Broadway productions, are a good singer, dress well or if they just want to put a label on someone while they are doing well. Personally i am fed up with all the "are they, aren't they's" in hollywood, just wait till their ready to tell if they truly are gosh. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
aanodide
aanodide
3. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Jul 17 2008, 10:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2008, 10:07 PM EDT
I understand you're point of view.

I may be arrogant, I wouldn't be the first person to be arrogant.

What I'm about to write makes the assumption that you would care. Well, hell, it's a forum - so no harm throwing it out. I want you to know I believe in respect - and I understand you may or may not be inclined to care.

Here's my stance:

(1) I was a sensitive kid with unhealthy tendencies towards empathy (nobody can't put the weight of the world on your shoulders, but I tried)

(2) Around age 10 I became equally interested in science, computers, and music - and managed to stand out as "talented" in the small town I grew up in (Point Pleasant New Jersey).

(3) When my horizons obtained depth, I found that my trumpet and piano playing were not viable in the professional world, although my composition skills were in the ballpark, I chose to get my education in the standout winner of my proficiencies, computer science.

(4) I have developed a view of performing arts that is very mechanistic. To me it does not detract from the intrinsic value of art, but I find it hard to explain it without sounding like a robot.

(5) As I started to analyze movies more and more, I started breaking everything down and observing. As a result, I ended up with a "snobbish" attitude. I don't like this about myself, but it is something I am working on.

(6) I hold onto my dreams even if they have a small chance of fruition. There are two classes of goals: those which require a discrete biological trait, and those which don't. I'm not going to be a baseball player of an astronaut but there is no rule saying I can't be part of a form of art that interests me greatly.

(7) The principal of learning via role model is valid. (regardless of stigma / self help literature.

(8) I'm straight but most people think I'm gay, so Mr. Hall could be a role model.
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T-Diamond
T-Diamond
4. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Jul 18 2008, 9:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2008, 9:45 AM EDT
It seems as though you think that I was talking about you be arrogant, so i am sorry if you perceived it thus way, it was not intended to be pointed at you. I was talking about, how was tired of the MEDIA putting such an emphasis on the sexual preferences of todays "celebrities." It just seems as though nobody pays attention to what really matters in the industry any more, and that would be the raw talent, something that Hall obviously has. That was all i was trying to say, that and obviously answering the question you asked. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
aanodide
aanodide
5. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Jul 19 2008, 3:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2008, 3:38 AM EDT
Hi, T-Diamond - It is myself who owes you the apology for directing such a self-centered and largely out of left field reply to you comments, which as you say, were merely trying to give an answer to my question and express a single concise opinion of your own.

If you are interested in discussing the role of media with me, I'd be happy to further engage. I tend to break down information semantically in order to filter out the background noise of well formed sentences.

Your statements have a context.

I would say they all refer to the domain of show-biz.

Every domain has discrete entities, Show-biz has, among others:

- MEDIA
- CELEBRITIES
- CONSUMERS

The domain of show biz is filled with instances of its various entities.

Of the entities referred to here, all instances map to individual people.

MEDIA --> a member of the press

PERFORMER --> an actor who is employed to participate in the production of a product (episode, movie, newscast,etc..)

CONSUMER --> individuals of the television watching population. Any discussion in the domain of show-biz (in my opinion) must consider this entity because without anyone to watch a thing, there is no reason for any of the other entities to exist.

so:

(I) MEDIA >>puts emphasis on>> CELEBRITIES : Sexual Preference

I have observed that the MEDIA, as a whole, is a domain in it's own right. In addition, they also owe their existence to CONSUMERS.

Following the principal that the simplest explanation tends to be correct, then by (I) I would tend to infer:

(I.a) CONSUMERS <<demand details unrelated to raw talent<< PERFORMERS

(I.b) MEDIA >>works to supply the demand in (I.a)>> CONSUMERS

From the above, I conclude that the value of a performer in the eyes of a consumer is simply not based on raw talent.

Is this WRONG? Or just a fact to be noted?
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crocdundee
crocdundee
6. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Nov 19 2008, 12:04 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 12:04 AM EST
"Is Mr. Hall known to be hetro or homo (sexual) ? I don't suppose it matters in a strictly moral sense, but curiosity is a strong thing. On the one hand lots of people - well practically everyone I meet - thinks I'm gay but oddly enough I'm not. I think it would be cool if Mr. Hall is straight, but lots of statistics - just going by the numbers - I'd suspect maybe he's not. I'm not going to ask the guy (duh) but part of the price you pay for getting famous is having people out there that you don't even know wondering things about you personal life - that's just the way it goes.

So what's the scoop?

Aaron"
Sorry for late posting but just recently joined.I don't think it matters one iota if MCH is or isn't.If he isn't he just confirms what a great actor he is, as his portrayal of David in Six Feet was brilliant. If he is, well lucky him,doing what comes naturally in SFU and being paid for it!!
Keep up the great work Michael.
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spya
spya
7. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Nov 19 2008, 12:14 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 12:14 AM EST
"I understand you're point of view.

I may be arrogant, I wouldn't be the first person to be arrogant.

What I'm about to write makes the assumption that you would care. Well, hell, it's a forum - so no harm throwing it out. I want you to know I believe in respect - and I understand you may or may not be inclined to care.

Here's my stance:

(1) I was a sensitive kid with unhealthy tendencies towards empathy (nobody can't put the weight of the world on your shoulders, but I tried)

(2) Around age 10 I became equally interested in science, computers, and music - and managed to stand out as "talented" in the small town I grew up in (Point Pleasant New Jersey).

(3) When my horizons obtained depth, I found that my trumpet and piano playing were not viable in the professional world, although my composition skills were in the ballpark, I chose to get my education in the standout winner of my proficiencies, computer science.

(4) I have developed a view of performing arts that is very mechanistic. To me it does not detract from the intrinsic value of art, but I find it hard to explain it without sounding like a robot.

(5) As I started to analyze movies more and more, I started breaking everything down and observing. As a result, I ended up with a "snobbish" attitude. I don't like this about myself, but it is something I am working on.

(6) I hold onto my dreams even if they have a small chance of fruition. There are two classes of goals: those which require a discrete biological trait, and those which don't. I'm not going to be a baseball player of an astronaut but there is no rule saying I can't be part of a form of art that interests me greatly.

(7) The principal of learning via role model is valid. (regardless of stigma / self help literature.

(8) I'm straight but most people think I'm gay, so Mr. Hall could be a role model."
Just goes to show you. Never judge a book by its cover.
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JayC16
JayC16
8. RE: asking this here seems to be the fastest way to get an answer
Nov 19 2008, 11:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 11:06 AM EST
"Is Mr. Hall known to be hetro or homo (sexual) ? I don't suppose it matters in a strictly moral sense, but curiosity is a strong thing. On the one hand lots of people - well practically everyone I meet - thinks I'm gay but oddly enough I'm not. I think it would be cool if Mr. Hall is straight, but lots of statistics - just going by the numbers - I'd suspect maybe he's not. I'm not going to ask the guy (duh) but part of the price you pay for getting famous is having people out there that you don't even know wondering things about you personal life - that's just the way it goes.

So what's the scoop?

Aaron"
Well, if he is gay and Rita finds out, will they stay together?
And if he is gay, does he get nervous (maybe giddy) when he disrobes his victims before plastic wrapping them to the table?

I personally don't think it is a problem asking someone if he is gay or straight, per se. If someone asks me if I'm straight (which I am) I would not be upset. So the question itself is not a bad thing. What is bad is how society reacts or treats those who are different from the majority. Maybe some day humans will grow up and understand that everyone is different from everyone else and no one can or should force their beliefs of morality or judgments upon others. If certain self righteous groups/people were so correct in their thinking, they wouldn't have the problems that they have in their own circles. Many (politically) far right religious people talk about thier hatred towards gay people, because it against their book of codes, but they (conveniently) forget that the same book of codes also talks against hating and judging others.
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dexlvr3
dexlvr3
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Nov 19 2008, 3:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 3:04 PM EST
"Just goes to show you. Never judge a book by its cover."
You are absolutely right!
On another note, I'm wondering how you could tell that someone was gay just by who they voted for or by their pictures?!
Both of those statements were ignorant to say the least.
Michael C. Hall is an excellent actor regardless of his sexuality. I don't care if he's purple with green polka dots and bi-sexual.
His portrayal of David on SFU was great just as his portrayal of Dexter is great.
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zahmerica
zahmerica
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Nov 19 2008, 4:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 4:16 PM EST
Are we talking about Michael C. Hall or Dexter being gay? You lost me in the middle there.

It doesn't sound like MCH is gay from his background. He seems like a super serious actor though. He takes it very seriously. He seems to gravitate towards challenging roles. To play a gay man when you're not gay, that's hard work. I'm sorry but it is. Playing a killer would be hard too. I'm wondering if he's asexual. He's in relationships obviously but he could pass for someone like Dexter. More into his "hobby" than relationships. His hobby being acting in this case. Unnecessary reminder :) Just seems like to be THAT good, you have to be pretty focused on it. How does he have time for romance? Haha
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spya
spya
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Nov 19 2008, 5:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 5:07 PM EST
"You are absolutely right!
On another note, I'm wondering how you could tell that someone was gay just by who they voted for or by their pictures?!
Both of those statements were ignorant to say the least.
Michael C. Hall is an excellent actor regardless of his sexuality. I don't care if he's purple with green polka dots and bi-sexual.
His portrayal of David on SFU was great just as his portrayal of Dexter is great. "
Yep. All it proves is that Michael C. Hall is a very diverse actor. Thus, the term actor. I must say, that I can tell without looking at nudes of him, er, I mean pictures of him, pictures! LOL!
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zahmerica
zahmerica
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Nov 19 2008, 6:37 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 6:37 PM EST
It's funny, his film and TV resume is super small but he's pretty much the best actor in the world. He's my favorite actor anyway. His performance on Dexter makes even big film actors look lame. Something about him is very effective. The scene during the Narcotics Anonymous meeting when he was talking about his dark passenger was truly brilliant. It took long enough but there's finally a TV drama that's actually GOOD. I hope the days of nominating Patrick Dempsey and James Spader for an emmy award are over. I don't expect to see anybody from broadcast cable in the running anymore. HBO and Showtime really stepped it up. Dexter especially. It's a crime that the show didn't get more recognition during the emmy's. Do you find this valuable?    
aanodide
aanodide
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Nov 21 2008, 12:07 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2008, 12:07 AM EST
"It's funny, his film and TV resume is super small but he's pretty much the best actor in the world. He's my favorite actor anyway. His performance on Dexter makes even big film actors look lame. Something about him is very effective. The scene during the Narcotics Anonymous meeting when he was talking about his dark passenger was truly brilliant. It took long enough but there's finally a TV drama that's actually GOOD. I hope the days of nominating Patrick Dempsey and James Spader for an emmy award are over. I don't expect to see anybody from broadcast cable in the running anymore. HBO and Showtime really stepped it up. Dexter especially. It's a crime that the show didn't get more recognition during the emmy's."
I agree, the scene was awesome - but also you gotta give the writers credit for that. Think about the monologue by Morgan Freeman near the end of Shawshank - that was just his voice, but (my opinion) as effective- "I find I am so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it is the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain... I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope."
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CKrelax
CKrelax
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Nov 21 2008, 5:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2008, 5:07 PM EST
"I agree, the scene was awesome - but also you gotta give the writers credit for that. Think about the monologue by Morgan Freeman near the end of Shawshank - that was just his voice, but (my opinion) as effective- "I find I am so excited I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it is the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain... I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.""
I adore the tall drink of water that played the white guy lead in that movie.What was his name? He was also in Nothing to Lose, and others. He is a total babe fest. Gorgeous!
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aanodide
aanodide
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Nov 21 2008, 7:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2008, 7:51 PM EST
LOL - Tim Robbins? He's been in so many cool movies. Did you know he was Merlin in Top Gun? I'm one of the only people I know of that like The Hudsucker Proxy - he's awesome in that. And Mystic River as well. Really great actor. Well, he always has a "Tim Robbin-ness" to him, so I guess maybe he's not as so obviously diverse as the Dex, but so far as being effective in his roles, he's got something :) Do you find this valuable?    
crocdundee
crocdundee
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Nov 21 2008, 9:45 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2008, 9:45 PM EST
"It's funny, his film and TV resume is super small but he's pretty much the best actor in the world. He's my favorite actor anyway. His performance on Dexter makes even big film actors look lame. Something about him is very effective. The scene during the Narcotics Anonymous meeting when he was talking about his dark passenger was truly brilliant. It took long enough but there's finally a TV drama that's actually GOOD. I hope the days of nominating Patrick Dempsey and James Spader for an emmy award are over. I don't expect to see anybody from broadcast cable in the running anymore. HBO and Showtime really stepped it up. Dexter especially. It's a crime that the show didn't get more recognition during the emmy's."
I agree MCH is superb however i think he is better in SFU as he has a broader pallet on which to show his acting range.Not that he's not great on Dexter but, he has more of a range of emotions on SFU.In Dexter he is restricted by character however in SFU he has the repressed homosexuality and once he comes out ,it opens up even more of a magicians bag of tricks in his acting ability.Would love to see him break into film properly.
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dexlvr3
dexlvr3
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Nov 23 2008, 3:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 23 2008, 3:59 PM EST
"I agree MCH is superb however i think he is better in SFU as he has a broader pallet on which to show his acting range.Not that he's not great on Dexter but, he has more of a range of emotions on SFU.In Dexter he is restricted by character however in SFU he has the repressed homosexuality and once he comes out ,it opens up even more of a magicians bag of tricks in his acting ability.Would love to see him break into film properly."
SFU was a great show. I really think it attributed to him getting the lead in Dexter. The cast in that show was fantastic. I have seen MCH in one movie. He had a very small part. He wasn't allowed very much time, so there was really not a lot of range in his acting. I think it was in between SFU & Dexter. I would love to see him in more films as well. I have seen Deb in films.
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crocdundee
crocdundee
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Nov 23 2008, 6:31 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 23 2008, 6:31 PM EST
"I have seen Deb in films. "
whats she been in?
with a mouth like that it should be Jaws!
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aanodide
aanodide
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Nov 24 2008, 2:13 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 24 2008, 2:13 AM EST
"whats she been in?
with a mouth like that it should be Jaws!
"
she was in a movie set in nyc ground zero 1 yr. post 9/11, and it was one of those character mashup art attempts- she's a young lesbian tending bar - among about 11 other charaters. The only others in it I recognized were Genine Gerafalo as an agoraphobic and the aids ridden optimistic black guy from christopher columbus' movie version of rent as a poet stalker. There's a blonde in the movie, and imdb says not much about her, but she kinda reminded me of calista flockhart but with better knockers. I thought she was pretty good.

I can't remember the name of the film though :)
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