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L.Borgia
L.Borgia
20. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Oct 31 2008, 7:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 7:43 AM EDT
"Since it was first revealed that Rita was with child, I predicted that she would have a miscarriage, however last week I recanted my prediction and it looks like it was a smart thing to do. Everything turned out "okie-dokie" for Rita and the baby so now I'm fairly sure that this baby is going to happen. It doesn't seem likely that the show will inject ANOTHER miscarriage scare into the show now that we just had one. The only way I can imagine the baby not happening is if Rita is injured badly somehow and in the hospital they'd have to terminate the baby to save Rita (but I don't feel to sure that's going to happen).

I'm glad Matsuka dominated Ramon today and sort of "came back". It is sort of sad to see his little character development end already. After one episode, really guys?

Deb talking to Freebo's doorman looks like it will guarantee death for that kid. Certainly since it showed the binocular vision of them from far away. Is somebody stalking Deb. Could it be Quinn? Anton? The clips on Showtime.com mention even Ramon as a suspect. I could see that happening. Especially since Miguel and Dexter will be going into business together, it could make it difficult since Dexter may want to kill Ramon if he is some kind of skinning killer.

Speaking of which, I predicted since episode one that Miguel would team up with Dexter. Looks like its definitely going to happen, but the only question I have is will Dexter tell Miguel he was THE Bay Harbor Butcher?

Poor Deb keeps getting her heart broken. She should probably have a better taste in men.

I think that about covers it. La Guerta was lacking majorly in this episode. I predict Dexter and Miguel will start playing it fast and loose together and start getting too comfortable, and by episode ten, I bet Miguel will die (but not by Dexter's hands)."
Oscar might be the skinner of coke using prostitutes, and Miguel knows it.Maybe his Dad had alittle knife problem as well as liquor.So he can see things in Dexter that his family is hiding, calling it family business? I think Miguel is setting up Dexter,especially by giving him his bloody shirt.So he can link Dexter to Freebos death.And making a huge public case for fame and fortune that would help his D.A.career.I think Ramon needs to be setup in a cocaine sting and murder of the skinned girls and go to prison to be taken out in prison as a cop gone bad.And Miguel needs to fall overboard while fishing and get eaten by a shark, with alittle blood letting by Dexter for chum.Then call the coast guard and get help to identify what the shark didn't eat,and oh was'nt it a horrible accident while bringing the shark caught on the line in?Ha!Ha!Or poison him with a beer and have him hit by a truck,driveby leaving Oscars favorite bar!
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fortythree
21. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Oct 31 2008, 8:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 8:55 AM EDT
I am very concerned about Miguel's motives. In fact, I was surprised that Dexter jumped at the possibility of killing the guy on the boat so quickly. He usually has a list of people he's keeping an eye on, why did he immediately kill the guy that Miguel suggested? Didn't Dexter figure that Miguel would be keeping tabs on this man and that he would notice if something weird happened, like, he suddenly went missing?

It would not surprise me at all if Miguel already suspects that Dexter could be the Bay Harbor butcher. I don't think LaGuerta was convinced that Stoakes was the Bay Harbor butcher. We know that she's close to Miguel. Has she discussed this with him?

The only thing I'm sure of about Miguel is that he's very sharp. He notices things that other people don't see, suspects possibilities that wouldn't occur to other people, reads people really well. Why is Miguel so eager to cultivate this friendship with Dexter? I agree with the comment above that Miguel seems too clingy. The way he shows up all the time is creepy; he's like a stalker boyfriend or something. And there is something that rings false to me about all of his claims about Dexter being like a brother.

I suppose we'll see.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
22. .RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Oct 31 2008, 9:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 9:36 AM EDT
Perhaps the show is trying to show them as soulmates. Not the sexual kind like Lila always pushed fpr, but, econizing another killer in each one. It would be an age issue that has Dexter jumping in too fast. Don't you think? And the fact Harry is gone and he misses that backboard more than he knows. He misses it so much he is trying to push Harry out of his head, and filling it with Migl instead. More of a reaction, than purposeful thought? Even if we think we can control all our emotions, we can't. Therefore this is a dangerous area of Dexters life. One thing that is especially different with PRado as "support" rather than Harry, is that Dexter seems to be adhering a lust for killing now and not just enjoyment. He is pushing the line there. How much can Dexter stay inside the code when he is being passes so many wrong ways to go? IT is a moral delimha we all face, although mine has never involved killing anyone! WE all face ti with opportunities to steal or lie or berat someone. Dexters is just facing same demons but with a different cause. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
JayC16
JayC16
23. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Oct 31 2008, 4:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2008, 4:05 PM EDT
"I am very concerned about Miguel's motives. In fact, I was surprised that Dexter jumped at the possibility of killing the guy on the boat so quickly. He usually has a list of people he's keeping an eye on, why did he immediately kill the guy that Miguel suggested? Didn't Dexter figure that Miguel would be keeping tabs on this man and that he would notice if something weird happened, like, he suddenly went missing?

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I was also a little supprised at how quickly Dexter decided to kill this guy. But he has not been thinking clearly lately. Lots of stuff going on inhis life clouding his decisions. Also, Dexter has been sort of like a drug user going through withdrawls. I think he was anxious to do someone, so he jumped at this opportunity.
This snap decision might help him in the future to be more careful and to keep hold to some of Harry's code as he is reinventing his own code.
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PLZhopOFFmyD1CK
PLZhopOFFmyD1CK
24. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 2 2008, 6:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2008, 6:07 PM EST
I trust Miguel even less than before now. To add to the previous comments about Dexter's quick decision to kill, I'm wondering if Miguel made up (or on some level exaggerated) the story about Ethan Turner. Before Dex gets any results from searching the name is when it cuts over to the "dream sequence" where he's talking to Harry. Another thing is when he kills Ethan, he has his mouth covered and mentions skipping the conversation... could be Ethan had no idea why Dex was there. It's subtle, but could play in later that the kill wasn't as righteous as Dexter believed.

I still believe the bloody shirt Miguel gave him isn't the real one. I would think if his intentions are actually to make DA by exposing Dex then he could piece together the whole thing about the Bay Harbor Butcher by now, or at least set up another kill where he plans to catch Dex in the act and then additionally charge him with the other 2 murders.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
25. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 2 2008, 8:41 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2008, 8:41 PM EST
"I trust Miguel even less than before now. To add to the previous comments about Dexter's quick decision to kill, I'm wondering if Miguel made up (or on some level exaggerated) the story about Ethan Turner. Before Dex gets any results from searching the name is when it cuts over to the "dream sequence" where he's talking to Harry. Another thing is when he kills Ethan, he has his mouth covered and mentions skipping the conversation... could be Ethan had no idea why Dex was there. It's subtle, but could play in later that the kill wasn't as righteous as Dexter believed.

I still believe the bloody shirt Miguel gave him isn't the real one. I would think if his intentions are actually to make DA by exposing Dex then he could piece together the whole thing about the Bay Harbor Butcher by now, or at least set up another kill where he plans to catch Dex in the act and then additionally charge him with the other 2 murders."
But, why wouldn't Dexter get rid of the shirt? Oh, you mean if it is a fake, then Miigl still has original one?
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JayC16
JayC16
26. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 12:07 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 12:07 AM EST
"But, why wouldn't Dexter get rid of the shirt? Oh, you mean if it is a fake, then Miigl still has original one?"
Under "Is ADA Prado Trying to Trap Dexter" I wrote:
I'm surprised that Dexter has not had Freebo's blood (from his slide) and the blood from ADA Prado's shirt analyzed to be sure that Prado is on the level. It would be a nasty twist if Prado bought a similar shirt (it was dark and rainy) and put blood on it to trick Dexter. I doubt that he did this, though. I still beleive that Prado finds the thought of wild west justice intriguing as a side job, and welcomes the idea of working with Dexter in some capacity. They both have their own list of criminals who've slipped thorugh the cracks. Maybe down the road they'll exchange notes."
I'm glad to see that they are teaming up. It will make for a really exciting remainder of the season. I liked all the episodes of all three seasons, but now it's looking to get even better.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
27. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 8:31 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 8:31 AM EST
"Under "Is ADA Prado Trying to Trap Dexter" I wrote:
I'm surprised that Dexter has not had Freebo's blood (from his slide) and the blood from ADA Prado's shirt analyzed to be sure that Prado is on the level. It would be a nasty twist if Prado bought a similar shirt (it was dark and rainy) and put blood on it to trick Dexter. I doubt that he did this, though. I still beleive that Prado finds the thought of wild west justice intriguing as a side job, and welcomes the idea of working with Dexter in some capacity. They both have their own list of criminals who've slipped thorugh the cracks. Maybe down the road they'll exchange notes."
I'm glad to see that they are teaming up. It will make for a really exciting remainder of the season. I liked all the episodes of all three seasons, but now it's looking to get even better.
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It really IS a good season. I agree. Thanks for clarifying the shirt blood issue.

I liked how Harry dressed as dEx in this last episode Wasn't that a hoot? hahah
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JayC16
JayC16
28. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 1:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 1:04 PM EST
"

I liked how Harry dressed as dEx in this last episode Wasn't that a hoot? hahah"
Yeah. And his sarcasm about inviting Rita and Deb along was a nice addition. They actually looked nice together dressed like that... father and son. I have 2 daughers and have not been able to fit into my dresses lately, Besides, Holloween is over and I missed my chance. So we won't be dressing alike anytime soon. : (
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CKrelax
CKrelax
29. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 4:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 4:33 PM EST
"Yeah. And his sarcasm about inviting Rita and Deb along was a nice addition. They actually looked nice together dressed like that... father and son. I have 2 daughers and have not been able to fit into my dresses lately, Besides, Holloween is over and I missed my chance. So we won't be dressing alike anytime soon. : ("
Gosh, I hope your a woman. hahahaahhaaha
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JayC16
JayC16
30. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 4:44 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 4:44 PM EST
"Gosh, I hope your a woman. hahahaahhaaha"
Hahaha.
It's Jay, not Jane.
That's why I missed my chance to wear my, I mean 'A', dress on Halloween.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
31. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 3 2008, 5:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 5:05 PM EST
"Hahaha.
It's Jay, not Jane.
That's why I missed my chance to wear my, I mean 'A', dress on Halloween. "
I'm speechless! lol
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Tiger-10-8_1
32. RE: Thoughts on "Turning Biminese"
Nov 9 2008, 1:19 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2008, 1:19 PM EST
Right now it seem's like Dex is running on empty. Miguel is of course have to die. Don't think Dex will do it. Agree there's a big deep and dirty secret in the Prado family. Ramon is to out of control to be the skinner. Chance that Miguel is setting Dex up. Pretty good, as a killer he's a voyuer but not a doer. The people he wants killed are people he couldn't get to by himself, he feeds on Dex. Seems to have a vicarious thrill when Dex does the deed. How does he seem to be around when things are gonna happen or before they do? The Coast Guard? It's like the killer inserting himself into the investigation. No videos from the ship, who has the power to make it unknown? He wants something from Dex. Like a murder and now has enough power and knowledge of Dex to apply the pressure to get it done. As far as I can tell Dex is being overcome by what I call the Avalanche Effect. He's losing his grounding. Wants what he see's as a real life. Rita, kids and a dog. And a friend, Miguel. I wouldn't trust him for any reason. He seems to be so pushy at the we're the same type thing. Will Dex tell Miguel he's the Bayside Butcher? I think Miguel already knows. As for Doakes. His ghost can rise by way of La Guerta. Just one of Dexter's kills with the signature facial cut will get get looking again. I can think of much more stuff about this but I've been given warning that I'm out of space. It's on tonight, I'll watch it and tape it and read into the subtext. Everybody get a VCR, you'll never miss anything and the rewind button is one of the finer gifts we could ever hope for. Tiger 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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