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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 2 2008, 11:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2008, 11:10 PM EST
Its hard to believe we're half way through our third season of Dexter. It feels like we've only just begun. I'm already predicting this will be the second best season (at least out of the three so far).

Is Harry right? Should Dexter not be trusting Miguel? My initial thought is yes. Somebody in Dexter's line of work should be working alone. Some believe Miguel is just setting Dexter up, and that he is going to stab Dexter in the back (no pun intended), however I don't feel that way. I think Miguel's motives are pure (as pure as a wannabe killer's motives can be). I think he genuinely just wants to be Dexter's friend.

However that is not a reason to trust him. We see in this episode he is starting to become a wreck. He's losing sleep, neglecting his wife, and the preview for next week leads us to believe he's going to ask Dexter to kill Ellen Wolf, an innocent woman. Dexter'd be wise to pull out of this relationship fast (although we all know he won't because if he did, there would be no show).

Where was Masuka this episode? He had one line I think. Rita was missing majorly in this episode also.

Angel and that Vice lady are hooking up. Good for them. Speaking of hooking up, Deb and Anton are getting uncomfortably close to doing just that. Am I in the minority when I say I don't want it to happen. Its just TOO predictable.

Ramon is out of control, and for a little bit, I thought he might be the skinner. I'm glad he isn't. The show should avoid the "the killer is right under our nose" aspect since its been done two seasons in a row. I'm hoping its gonna be somebody we don't know yet. Or at least Anton (I really don't want to like that guy).

Poor Camilla. It was sweet Dexter fed her. Will she divulge important information regarding Harry?

Also, when will I see the ghost of Doakes? I miss him.
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clairebbbear
clairebbbear
1. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 2 2008, 11:23 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2008, 11:23 PM EST
On the last point, I don't think we'll see the ghost of Doakes, for two reasons:

1. Unlike Jamer Remar, Erik King is no longer on the cast list.

2. Doakes didn't have a vital role in Dexter's personality and psychology like Harry did. It makes perfect sense for Harry to be in Dexter's subconscious, because so much of who Dexter is comes from him. For all his confiding in Doakes, he wasn't that important to Dexter.
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dexlvr3
dexlvr3
2. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 2 2008, 11:28 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2008, 11:28 PM EST
"Its hard to believe we're half way through our third season of Dexter. It feels like we've only just begun. I'm already predicting this will be the second best season (at least out of the three so far).

Is Harry right? Should Dexter not be trusting Miguel? My initial thought is yes. Somebody in Dexter's line of work should be working alone. Some believe Miguel is just setting Dexter up, and that he is going to stab Dexter in the back (no pun intended), however I don't feel that way. I think Miguel's motives are pure (as pure as a wannabe killer's motives can be). I think he genuinely just wants to be Dexter's friend.

However that is not a reason to trust him. We see in this episode he is starting to become a wreck. He's losing sleep, neglecting his wife, and the preview for next week leads us to believe he's going to ask Dexter to kill Ellen Wolf, an innocent woman. Dexter'd be wise to pull out of this relationship fast (although we all know he won't because if he did, there would be no show).

Where was Masuka this episode? He had one line I think. Rita was missing majorly in this episode also.

Angel and that Vice lady are hooking up. Good for them. Speaking of hooking up, Deb and Anton are getting uncomfortably close to doing just that. Am I in the minority when I say I don't want it to happen. Its just TOO predictable.

Ramon is out of control, and for a little bit, I thought he might be the skinner. I'm glad he isn't. The show should avoid the "the killer is right under our nose" aspect since its been done two seasons in a row. I'm hoping its gonna be somebody we don't know yet. Or at least Anton (I really don't want to like that guy).

Poor Camilla. It was sweet Dexter fed her. Will she divulge important information regarding Harry?

Also, when will I see the ghost of Doakes? I miss him."
I still don't trust Quinn for some reason. Maybe because he's just too cool....Maybe the skinners are he & Anton working together (opposite Dex & Miguel), would make an interesting story line. We'll see if Yuki gets skinned.
I'm really happy for Angel. He's one of my favorites. I'm kinda glad that Rita wasn't around much. When there's too much Rita, I think it tends to get too boring. I miss Doakes a lot!!!
What did you think about Miguel saying to the skinhead guy that the threats to his family would stop? What's going on there?
Maybe Deb will find out something bad about Anton before she does the deed. BUT...I don't think there's been a season where Deb hasn't done at least one guy.
I think that Camilla will spill some secrets. I also think that she's gonna ask Dex to kill her so she can hold on to her dignity. Probably after he finds her the best key lime pie.
I was so hoping that Dex wouldn't let Miguel see him kill. I was yelling at the TV, NO Dexter....NO!!! At least he was smart about that. Also not giving details of what he did to the guy on the cruise ship.
Great episode! I'm so glad that it's finally coming together.
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bleedthefreak
3. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 12:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 12:06 AM EST
the best part is when miguel entered an empty room. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
spya
spya
4. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 12:32 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 12:32 AM EST
"I still don't trust Quinn for some reason. Maybe because he's just too cool....Maybe the skinners are he & Anton working together (opposite Dex & Miguel), would make an interesting story line. We'll see if Yuki gets skinned.
I'm really happy for Angel. He's one of my favorites. I'm kinda glad that Rita wasn't around much. When there's too much Rita, I think it tends to get too boring. I miss Doakes a lot!!!
What did you think about Miguel saying to the skinhead guy that the threats to his family would stop? What's going on there?
Maybe Deb will find out something bad about Anton before she does the deed. BUT...I don't think there's been a season where Deb hasn't done at least one guy.
I think that Camilla will spill some secrets. I also think that she's gonna ask Dex to kill her so she can hold on to her dignity. Probably after he finds her the best key lime pie.
I was so hoping that Dex wouldn't let Miguel see him kill. I was yelling at the TV, NO Dexter....NO!!! At least he was smart about that. Also not giving details of what he did to the guy on the cruise ship.
Great episode! I'm so glad that it's finally coming together."
I agree with you about Quinn. It seemed kind of odd he just showed up while Deb was staking out Ramone. I DO NOT TRUST HIM.. However, it would have been a good trap setup for Deb if Ramone and Quinn were working together. I REALLY wish hadn't handed over the info about Yuki. Something tells me that she will regret that. YEAH, Angel!!! You go, boy! CANNOT wait to see what Camilla spills. Yeah, Dex will do a mercy killing with that one, you can bet on it. Miguel Will be with Dexter at 1 killing at least, since it was Jimmy's character that almost stabbed the stuntman. Cannot wait until next week.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
5. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 8:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 8:22 AM EST
"the best part is when miguel entered an empty room."
Oh, yeah! I thouht Dexter was busted for sure then! Way to go changing locations.The series of scenes between the houses shows Dexter is still on top of it. For now.Makes you wonder if he would have used as much thouht in his life had he not become a killer.

I was so glad Deb stepped up and told about Yuki. I knew she was a bad apple It will be interesting to see how far that goes.

It was good to see the writers gave Dex and Rita back their "Space" They are a better couple that way.

So sad about the kid. The show made you really care about him the last episode, so they could pull the audience heart strings this episode.

Okay, if Prado is going to be under investigation, won't there be a risk of survellenced conversations? Risk to Dex? I think his freely discussing kills is shocking.Plus, Migl has a temper, and might tape Dex to make him kill someone dex doesn't agree with killing.
Any thoughts, anyone?
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CKrelax
CKrelax
6. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 8:27 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 8:27 AM EST
"I agree with you about Quinn. It seemed kind of odd he just showed up while Deb was staking out Ramone. I DO NOT TRUST HIM.. However, it would have been a good trap setup for Deb if Ramone and Quinn were working together. I REALLY wish hadn't handed over the info about Yuki. Something tells me that she will regret that. YEAH, Angel!!! You go, boy! CANNOT wait to see what Camilla spills. Yeah, Dex will do a mercy killing with that one, you can bet on it. Miguel Will be with Dexter at 1 killing at least, since it was Jimmy's character that almost stabbed the stuntman. Cannot wait until next week. "
DEb had called Quinn for back up. Are you talking about when the prado kidnapping scene with the carb0onated drink was taking place? That was a good scene.

I still say Quinnis good. Perhaps a recruiter from the FBI or something bigger than what he is doing now. He appears to watch over debs progress and reward her efforts like a big brother would. That is my opinion.

I haven't done any research out side the box so I am just going by the watching the show itself. You may have more info you are going by?
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krazykarl
7. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 9:57 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 9:57 AM EST
"What did you think about Miguel saying to the skinhead guy that the threats to his family would stop? What's going on there?"
He was trying to convince the nazi guy that he was really setting him loose. Think about it, if you're a con and the ADA that put you in prison comes in and hands you a key, you're going to get suspicious. So he made him think that the guys nazi friends were threatening his family and thats why he was doing it.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
8. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 12:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 12:14 PM EST
I was fortunate enough to be at comic-con this year, and I asked if Doakes would make SOME kind of return, and the producer man said, "no". So I thought that was that. Then I saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5WLHhrH1o

I want to believe it so bad! Imagine if its just like one scene or something, where Dexter's having one of his day dreams or whatever, and Harry is just chilling out with Doakes or something. It may not be necessary, but I sure hope Showtime is into providing fan-service.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
9. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 12:18 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 12:18 PM EST
"I'm kinda glad that Rita wasn't around much. When there's too much Rita, I think it tends to get too boring."
I'm glad you said what you said about Rita. I actually said the same thing aloud to somebody, but didn't put it here because I think there are some major Rita supporters (I use to be one myself, until she started becoming strong and independent), and I didn't want to upset anyone.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
10. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:11 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:11 PM EST
I am sure Camilla will give Dex more info about something. She is a library of info, and she is also very good at keeping it quiet. When she dies a lot of very important secrets will be gone forever. I really really like her, and will miss having her as a wild card out there waiting to give out some very important tidbit that could alter someones life.
Dex is having a tough time with Harry this season, I wonder if She will provide Dex with more info to help him know or understand Harry. So I hope Camilla will tell all before she dies.
I wonder if she knows the Prado's? If so will she give Dexter the info he needs to decide if he can trust Miguel. Is Ramon the most stable of the Prado's in reality? Can it be that Miguel is really a Sociopath jsut waiting to emerge? or Has he emerged, and we do not know it yet? We know Ramon is a Hot Head so is all he really is, and if so he can not be really blamed for being a Prado because that is what he is. But Miguel is really the snake in the grass waiting to show himself for what he really is?

I have a feeling that Miguel may be a Sociopath, be had that History about his father, Miguel talks about him in not a glowing manner, calls him a Son of a Beach... So is Miguel holding his dark passenger in check, and has he been killing other by proxy, as the ADA he can kill the bad guys, but not by actually leaving his finger prints. Now he wants to have the pleasure of the kill and have his Dark Passenger come out.

Is Ramon the only stable Prado after all?

Will Miguel kill the Lawyer that is trying to have him disbarred.? Does she deserve it or Does He deserve it?
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
11. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:20 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:20 PM EST
"I agree with you about Quinn. It seemed kind of odd he just showed up while Deb was staking out Ramone. I DO NOT TRUST HIM.. However, it would have been a good trap setup for Deb if Ramone and Quinn were working together. I REALLY wish hadn't handed over the info about Yuki. Something tells me that she will regret that. YEAH, Angel!!! You go, boy! CANNOT wait to see what Camilla spills. Yeah, Dex will do a mercy killing with that one, you can bet on it. Miguel Will be with Dexter at 1 killing at least, since it was Jimmy's character that almost stabbed the stuntman. Cannot wait until next week. "
You Know, I did agree with you until Last nights episode.
I think he may turn out to be OK after all. He has learned to listen to his co workers and give them the credit they are due. He is backing them up and is a good guy. You can be correct though, in that he is too smooth. I don't like the Used Car Sales man approach that some people have. He is like that. But he is new and still needs to prove himself and gain the confidence of his co workers.

What really worries me, is that Miguel told Clemson Galt, that when he gives him the key and lets him escape, that all of the calls and the threats will end. So Miguel did know about this guy after all.
Will Miguel now start showing his dirty hands? Remember he told Dex that he had already requested the transfer befor Dex really pushed for it! I think we will see stuff about Miguel that will make Ramon seem like the most stable of the Prado's.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
12. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:24 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:24 PM EST
"On the last point, I don't think we'll see the ghost of Doakes, for two reasons:

1. Unlike Jamer Remar, Erik King is no longer on the cast list.

2. Doakes didn't have a vital role in Dexter's personality and psychology like Harry did. It makes perfect sense for Harry to be in Dexter's subconscious, because so much of who Dexter is comes from him. For all his confiding in Doakes, he wasn't that important to Dexter."
Yeah, Doakes is gone, History. He was needed and now he is not.

But, Could we be seeing the ghost of Camilla in the future? She has so much info and she was so helpful for Dex to understand things about Harry. I hope she lets Dex know everything she knows before she dies.
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JayC16
JayC16
13. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:25 PM EST
"Where was Masuka this episode? He had one line I think. Rita was missing majorly in this episode also.

"
Rita is pregnant and she needs to rest. The producers probably didn't want her on the set too much.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
14. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:27 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:27 PM EST
"the best part is when miguel entered an empty room."
Do you mean the empty house at the end?
If so then YES it was great and when he sez, with a smile and a smirk, 'Dexter', and shakes his head.
It is like he knew Dex would have done that. I really liked that......
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spya
spya
15. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:29 PM EST
"Oh, yeah! I thouht Dexter was busted for sure then! Way to go changing locations.The series of scenes between the houses shows Dexter is still on top of it. For now.Makes you wonder if he would have used as much thouht in his life had he not become a killer.

I was so glad Deb stepped up and told about Yuki. I knew she was a bad apple It will be interesting to see how far that goes.

It was good to see the writers gave Dex and Rita back their "Space" They are a better couple that way.

So sad about the kid. The show made you really care about him the last episode, so they could pull the audience heart strings this episode.

Okay, if Prado is going to be under investigation, won't there be a risk of survellenced conversations? Risk to Dex? I think his freely discussing kills is shocking.Plus, Migl has a temper, and might tape Dex to make him kill someone dex doesn't agree with killing.
Any thoughts, anyone?"
Well, actually, I do have a thought regarding the Miguel/Dex situation. I wonder if now, that Prado's dark side is shining through, and he is asking Dexter to disrupt the code, how would he react if Dexter refused to accomodate his whims. I mean-someone Miguel REALLLLLY wanted dead for pissing him off, but that did not meet Dexter's code in any way.
Would he try to blackmail Dexter into doing it for him? I just wonder. And also, something is telling me that Camilla is back in the picture for a reason. Maybe to also shed a little light on the Prado family and their skeletons? And out of curiosity, Does LaGuerta have a personal relationship with EVERY bigwig that comes along? Man! I was glad to see a storyline that features her a little more (with the attorney), and somehow, I think that somehow, she may end up being on Prado's list, too since that bit w/Ramon.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
16. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 2:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 2:29 PM EST
Deb is now really bonding with Anton.
I am not sure where this will go, but it should be fun.

Yucki Yuki scares me, alot....
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JayC16
JayC16
17. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 3:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 3:14 PM EST
"Is Harry right? Should Dexter not be trusting Miguel? My initial thought is yes. Somebody in Dexter's line of work should be working alone. Some believe Miguel is just setting Dexter up, and that he is going to stab Dexter in the back (no pun intended), however I don't feel that way. I think Miguel's motives are pure (as pure as a wannabe killer's motives can be). I think he genuinely just wants to be Dexter's friend.

However that is not a reason to trust him. We see in this episode he is starting to become a wreck. He's losing sleep, neglecting his wife, and the preview for next week leads us to believe he's going to ask Dexter to kill Ellen Wolf, an innocent woman. Dexter'd be wise to pull out of this relationship fast (although we all know he won't because if he did, there would be no show).

Where was Masuka this episode? He had one line I think. Rita was missing majorly in this episode also.

Angel and that Vice lady are hooking up. Good for them. Speaking of hooking up, Deb and Anton are getting uncomfortably close to doing just that. Am I in the minority when I say I don't want it to happen. Its just TOO predictable.

Ramon is out of control, and for a little bit, I thought he might be the skinner. I'm glad he isn't. The show should avoid the "the killer is right under our nose" aspect since its been done two seasons in a row. I'm hoping its gonna be somebody we don't know yet. Or at least Anton (I really don't want to like that guy).

Also, when will I see the ghost of Doakes? I miss him."
Wow. So much good meat to chew on in this episode.
In my opinion, the question about trusting Miguel no longer an issue. Miguel is sincere in wanting to work with Dexter. it may be ultimately for his own personal satisfaction, either to have someone to do his dirty work or to work with. But I doubt that he wants to harm Dexter. Whether he wants Dexter as a true friend is another issue. But he does not intend to turn him in. Dexter can now harm Prado as much as Prado can harm Dexter. However, It seems that Miguel has issues. He wants the defense attorney killed even thought she has not killed or hurt anyone directly. In Miguel's eyes she is guilty of helping criminals stay out of jail. So she is responsible for whatever crimes they commit.
I am glad for Angel. he definitely needs someone to fill his emotional needs. The vice cop now knows that Angel is sincere because he turned down the 'hooker' that she sent to test him.
I think Deb and Anton might make a good couple for a short while. In the long run it might not work, though. Theyve had chemistry almost since they met. And when she went to him in the club to tell him that she 'feels not good' about the bathroom scene, she was kind of nervous, like a school girl. And he was not too far from that ither. (except the school girl part.) His song to her , 'Puta Flaca, Mala' sort of sealed something between them. (If you didn't read my post about the song, look for the translation under 'Threads'.)

In the preview of next week, Deb says the killer is stalking his victims from the trees. Remember when the found Javier skinned near a coconut tree. One of the tree climbers seemed a little defensive when Deb was questioning him. Could he be an accomplice to whoever is really behind this? And why did Quinn walk away when Deb was going to question them, besides the fact that he wanted to talk with the two buxom women near the crime scene???
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JayC16
JayC16
18. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 3:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 3:25 PM EST
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Poor Camilla. It was sweet Dexter fed her. Will she divulge important information regarding Harry?

Also, when will I see the ghost of Doakes? I miss him."
I also think that Camilla has something to reveal. maybe in her delerium (?) she will revel it to Deb!!

As far as Dokes, I never really liked him, but he did make things interesting. He probably will show up at some point. Dokes was (I think) Dexter's first major conflict of Harry's code. (Dokes was his stepping off point.) Dex didn't want to kill him, but he couldn't let him live either. Then he was so greatful to Lila for doing the job. He might even appologize to Dokes when he sees him next time. We know that Dexter secretly admired Dokes, and his instincts, or at least respected him, for being "the only one who gets the creeps" from him.
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JayC16
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19. RE: Thoughts on "Si Se Puede"
Nov 3 2008, 3:50 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2008, 3:50 PM EST
"Well, actually, I do have a thought regarding the Miguel/Dex situation. I wonder if now, that Prado's dark side is shining through, and he is asking Dexter to disrupt the code, how would he react if Dexter refused to accomodate his whims. I mean-someone Miguel REALLLLLY wanted dead for pissing him off, but that did not meet Dexter's code in any way.
Would he try to blackmail Dexter into doing it for him? I just wonder. And also, something is telling me that Camilla is back in the picture for a reason. Maybe to also shed a little light on the Prado family and their skeletons? And out of curiosity, Does LaGuerta have a personal relationship with EVERY bigwig that comes along? Man! I was glad to see a storyline that features her a little more (with the attorney), and somehow, I think that somehow, she may end up being on Prado's list, too since that bit w/Ramon. "
Dexter has been consciously making his own code. Once he became disillusioned with Harry, that code was no longer Dexter's bible. It's still a good reference book, but it can be modified as Dexter sees fit. Dexter broke the code when he killed the pedofile who was taking pictures at the beach. Just before Dexter killed him he defined part of his new code: "You've stepped uninvited into my world. and that's a place where I decide who gets to live and who doesn't." and "No one hurts my children." But as far as Prado's request to kill the defense attorney, I doubt very much that he will do that. She has not harmed Dexter or his children, nor has she deliberately killed or hurt anyone in a way that deserves his brand justice. This will be the first real test of their friendship. Maybe Dexter will start to see another (self serving) side of Miguel, and that will cause him to begin to become more cautious. Personally, I hope I am wrong and Miguel does not take Dexter's rejection (of the kill) badly. I like them teamed up. I doubt that Dexter will kill him.
One possible scenario for next week is that after Dexter rejects Miguel's request to off the deffense attorney, Miguel will kill her himself. I don't think that miguel has gotten his own hands dirty that way before, and he will botch something up. He will then ask our hero for help in disposing of the body.
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