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JayC16	20. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 9:33 PM EST "Since Miguel killed a man in front of Dexter it would kind of difficult to charge Dexter with anything, I think. But it could be a my word against your word situation. But I think that Miguel took out Ellen so Dex will have to take out MIguel! Rita was good last night! Great! She has spunk and let the arrows fly!" Now that Miguel has killed someone as part of a tag team (toe tag), I am sure he is not setting Dexter up at the present time. I generally had always thought that Miguel was sincere about really killing people. My only doubt was (an is) if Miguel is really Dexter's friend. Miguel always seems to be manipulating Dexter and using reverse child psychology in order to get his way, As soon as Dexter makes a decision that conflicts with Miguel, he goes into a tantrum. He is either very imature, or he is just using Dexter. Or possibly a combination of both. I think it is both. But I doubt that he is genuinely a friend. Dexter will not Miguel as long as he thinks of him as a friend. When weighing the delema about Camillla, he stated that among the people that he will not kill is "certrainly not a friend." So that leads me to believe that Dexter will soon realize that Miguel is a manipulative, celf centered user. This will free Dexter to not seeing Miguel as a friend. Next step will be when/if Miguel slips up and kills an 'undeserving' victim, that might be Dexter's cue to step, remove Miguel, and go back to being a lone hunter. (Unless Rita wants in!) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JayC16	21. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 9:44 PM EST "Oh man you said a mouthful I have been thinking about Dexter all day and do not know where to start. I have watched no less that 3 times. It is Miguel that will get the axe at the end. I am sure of it. It is too bad that Dexter has finally found a friend and he has to kill him. (I hope it goes better with rita and the baby). Miguel miguel miguel, what are you thinking?? Do you think he will kill Ellen Wolf? it sure looks like it from the previews but they can be wrong. It maybe that they are shaking up. He has a love hate relationship with her, and now it is the love part. Miguel has a little training and he feels the part, But he is not trained to control himself. " I think maybe Miguel was having an affair with Ellen. They were debating about Albert Chow (?) like they were junior high school buddies. Maybe that was a show to avoid any legal confict of interest. But if he is laying down the law with her (metaphore), then maybe he is just using her like he is using Dexter. Setting her up for a kill or something. I don't know if she is going to die, but something big is going to happen soon. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	22. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 9:58 PM EST "Now that Miguel has killed someone as part of a tag team (toe tag), I am sure he is not setting Dexter up at the present time. I generally had always thought that Miguel was sincere about really killing people. My only doubt was (an is) if Miguel is really Dexter's friend. Miguel always seems to be manipulating Dexter and using reverse child psychology in order to get his way, As soon as Dexter makes a decision that conflicts with Miguel, he goes into a tantrum. He is either very imature, or he is just using Dexter. Or possibly a combination of both. I think it is both. But I doubt that he is genuinely a friend. Dexter will not Miguel as long as he thinks of him as a friend. When weighing the delema about Camillla, he stated that among the people that he will not kill is "certrainly not a friend." So that leads me to believe that Dexter will soon realize that Miguel is a manipulative, celf centered user. This will free Dexter to not seeing Miguel as a friend. Next step will be when/if Miguel slips up and kills an 'undeserving' victim, that might be Dexter's cue to step, remove Miguel, and go back to being a lone hunter. (Unless Rita wants in!) " He isn't genuinely a friend! I still don't understand why Dexter is being so stupid and trusting Miguel that much. He keeps pumping Dex for info not related to this kill. He knows way too much about Dexter and I think he intends to use it against him. Regardless if he is Dexter's kill buddy or not, he's not going to take the fall if they get caught. I am somewhat disappointed in Dexter right now. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	23. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 10:05 PM EST "I found it. TPOF - it is a good place to be I feel protected here. It is like a Safe Harbor. I am back thinking Quinn is not a good guy. I am really worried about Anton, he is in a pile of do do. (I can say that right?) " You can say anything you want here. It was a great idea, Jeff. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JayC16	24. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 10:16 PM EST "He isn't genuinely a friend! I still don't understand why Dexter is being so stupid and trusting Miguel that much. He keeps pumping Dex for info not related to this kill. He knows way too much about Dexter and I think he intends to use it against him. Regardless if he is Dexter's kill buddy or not, he's not going to take the fall if they get caught. I am somewhat disappointed in Dexter right now. " I see Dexter's relationship as puppy love - his first real personal bonding that goes deeper than lovers, like Dex and Lila. Very personal secret things have been revealed (which he didn't share with Lila) and Dexter is 'blinded by love', for lack of a better term. He still isn't seeing things clearly, but when he realizes that Miguel is not a genuine friend, he will wake up and set things straight. I agree that Miguel will not take the fall if something goes wrong. He may be collecting info for that reason, or he may just be really really curious. Dexter is just going through a phase, like a 13 year old boy in an all girl school. He's not thinking straight. Once he gets a big scare he will pull himself together. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	25. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 10:39 PM EST "I see Dexter's relationship as puppy love - his first real personal bonding that goes deeper than lovers, like Dex and Lila. Very personal secret things have been revealed (which he didn't share with Lila) and Dexter is 'blinded by love', for lack of a better term. He still isn't seeing things clearly, but when he realizes that Miguel is not a genuine friend, he will wake up and set things straight. I agree that Miguel will not take the fall if something goes wrong. He may be collecting info for that reason, or he may just be really really curious. Dexter is just going through a phase, like a 13 year old boy in an all girl school. He's not thinking straight. Once he gets a big scare he will pull himself together." I really hope so. (well, actually you know he will...the show is still called Dexter so he has to at some point.) I think he is still very angry at Harry and doing anything he possibly can to prove him wrong.So the 13 year old boy statement would fit. Is male bonding this deep? I have seen it somewhat but of course I can't ever really experience it myself. Please feel free to elaborate on that subject. I am surrounded by men on this site at the moment so hopefully I can get many opinions in that area. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	26. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 10:42 PM EST I am making the key lime pie as we speak. Hopefully it will be good. Would anybody like some? It comes with de rum in da coconut... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	27. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 11:26 PM EST Or not.... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mike91848	28. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 11:30 PM EST "I am making the key lime pie as we speak. Hopefully it will be good. Would anybody like some? It comes with de rum in da coconut..." I would love a slice................... And some Rum too! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mike91848	29. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 11:36 PM EST "Ah, Mike, About Rita!! I am never going to ask you for anytime there. She is all All, ALL yours, and I will never even be over for dinner. I think I am not man enough for her....... or Interested any more. She is all yours with my blessing.... You kids have fun now...." We will invite the whole crowd over for a BBQ, some Rum of course, a few Key Lime Pies too and play some party games. Slice the tail on the donkey for openers. We will have the water ballon toss, filled with fake blood then follow up with a contest to see who has the best blood spatter! I wonder if Dex would be the judge? Oh my head is spinning again............... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	30. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 11:42 PM EST "I would love a slice................... And some Rum too!" I just took it out of the oven. It looks and smells wonderful! Whether it tastes good or not remains to be seen. It has to cool down quite a bit. De Rum is in da coconut....I will pass it to you through the magic screen. Shake it all about! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mike91848	31. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 17 2008, 11:42 PM EST "He isn't genuinely a friend! I still don't understand why Dexter is being so stupid and trusting Miguel that much. He keeps pumping Dex for info not related to this kill. He knows way too much about Dexter and I think he intends to use it against him. Regardless if he is Dexter's kill buddy or not, he's not going to take the fall if they get caught. I am somewhat disappointed in Dexter right now. " Next week should turn the Miguel/Dexter friendship around. Miguel does not have the control that Dexter does. I heard a comment one time from an instructor, talking about learning something new; "You will reach a point where you have learned just enough to be dangerous". That's Miguel at this point! He will screw up big time and I think Dex will have to take him out. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	32. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 12:10 AM EST "Next week should turn the Miguel/Dexter friendship around. Miguel does not have the control that Dexter does. I heard a comment one time from an instructor, talking about learning something new; "You will reach a point where you have learned just enough to be dangerous". That's Miguel at this point! He will screw up big time and I think Dex will have to take him out." The previews show Dexter screaming "MIGUEL!!!" It looks like the same frame of mind that he had with Doakes when he had him in the cage. I wonder if he will be taken out next week, or later. I'm worried about the Ellen connection. We don't know at this point if she is on Miguels side or if he wants to get rid of her. Miguel has too many connections around him that he could have possibly told about Dexter. Even though Lila threatened Dexter with exposing him, she wanted him more than she wanted to destroy him. Miguel doesn't need Dexter to continue doing what he is doing. Maybe the bonding thing is important but I don't feel that it's absolutely necessary on Miguels part, anyway. (like I said, I can't really understand the male bonding completely.) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jwnelson11	33. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 5:03 PM EST "I really hope so. (well, actually you know he will...the show is still called Dexter so he has to at some point.) I think he is still very angry at Harry and doing anything he possibly can to prove him wrong.So the 13 year old boy statement would fit. Is male bonding this deep? I have seen it somewhat but of course I can't ever really experience it myself. Please feel free to elaborate on that subject. I am surrounded by men on this site at the moment so hopefully I can get many opinions in that area." Male bonding is like that old joke of Pull my finger. It is just that deep. Not really. Male bonding is the same thing that the girls have. It is when you feel so close to another person you can tell them anything and know it will not harm the relationship. Nothing is bad it is all accepted. BUT getting to this level is sort of what you are asking. In order to find this perfect friend you do have to act like a 13 yo, and if the guys that you hang with are still your friends you will find out which ones you can trust. The ones that are not or do not like what you do and how you act will go away, and then the ones that are the best of the best will still be there after you do all of the things that embarrass you or could have life long embarrassing consequences these are the ones that you hang on to. Cuz it will not matter what you tell them, or what you do, they will be there for you no matter what. The Bond Has Been set. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	34. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 5:05 PM EST "I am making the key lime pie as we speak. Hopefully it will be good. Would anybody like some? It comes with de rum in da coconut..." The wind must be blowing in from the coast. I think I can smell it...... You know it is only about 1 hour drive from here to Petaluma. a little more I guess if you go with the traffic. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
JayC16	35. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 5:39 PM EST "Next week should turn the Miguel/Dexter friendship around. Miguel does not have the control that Dexter does. I heard a comment one time from an instructor, talking about learning something new; "You will reach a point where you have learned just enough to be dangerous". That's Miguel at this point! He will screw up big time and I think Dex will have to take him out." Well Put. Miguel is like a squirrel in a forest of acorn trees and has not self control. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JayC16	36. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 6:19 PM EST "I really hope so. (well, actually you know he will...the show is still called Dexter so he has to at some point.) I think he is still very angry at Harry and doing anything he possibly can to prove him wrong.So the 13 year old boy statement would fit. Is male bonding this deep? I have seen it somewhat but of course I can't ever really experience it myself. Please feel free to elaborate on that subject. I am surrounded by men on this site at the moment so hopefully I can get many opinions in that area." About male bonding, I think a really fun way to understand it is to watch the movie SUPERBAD. It is about 2 high school kids and their relationship. I don't want to give the movie away, but it is a good example. Bonding is a good word here. Dexter is sharing something with Miguel that is frowned upon. And Miguel is also sharing dark personal issues with Dex. They can both be compromised by the other, but it is not a blackmail issue. They want to confide in the other. But if anyone else finds out, things might not go well. Had Lila been a guy and killed Doakes the way she did, and then told Dexter about what she did and he told her everything, I guess what they went throught could be considered male bonding. I guess there are many different things that constitute male bonding. Did you see the movie PORKY'S? Lots of male bonding. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	37. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 6:44 PM EST "Male bonding is like that old joke of Pull my finger. It is just that deep. Not really. Male bonding is the same thing that the girls have. It is when you feel so close to another person you can tell them anything and know it will not harm the relationship. Nothing is bad it is all accepted. BUT getting to this level is sort of what you are asking. In order to find this perfect friend you do have to act like a 13 yo, and if the guys that you hang with are still your friends you will find out which ones you can trust. The ones that are not or do not like what you do and how you act will go away, and then the ones that are the best of the best will still be there after you do all of the things that embarrass you or could have life long embarrassing consequences these are the ones that you hang on to. Cuz it will not matter what you tell them, or what you do, they will be there for you no matter what. The Bond Has Been set." Thanks Jeff! We have the same kind of bonding in the sense that we test each other, but I think that with women it is a little different. Women tend to be the hardest on and most judgemental of other women. So sometimes you think that this person is your friend but then they might get upset at something & the cat claws come out. I have had very few close female friends, but the ones that I've had have been like you said, you can say or do anything and they know everything about you and it is still okay. (then there's some that you really don't know too well but your thought processes bond really quickly...like my Sis K9!) I think that men are a little more accepting of each other. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	38. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 6:56 PM EST "About male bonding, I think a really fun way to understand it is to watch the movie SUPERBAD. It is about 2 high school kids and their relationship. I don't want to give the movie away, but it is a good example. Bonding is a good word here. Dexter is sharing something with Miguel that is frowned upon. And Miguel is also sharing dark personal issues with Dex. They can both be compromised by the other, but it is not a blackmail issue. They want to confide in the other. But if anyone else finds out, things might not go well. Had Lila been a guy and killed Doakes the way she did, and then told Dexter about what she did and he told her everything, I guess what they went throught could be considered male bonding. I guess there are many different things that constitute male bonding. Did you see the movie PORKY'S? Lots of male bonding. " Thanks Jay! I have seen Superbad and thought that it was hysterical. McLovin! (wonder if he was afraid of scary clowns? lol) Never have seen Porky's. I still don't trust Miguel. I think that he would use it as blackmail, if he was gonna be around for that long, that is. There are just some people that aren't trustworthy. I think that Dexter WANTS to trust him because he is longing for that bonding that he hasn't had in the past. He had bonding with Lila, this is true, but it was a different kind of bonding. Male/Female bonding is quite different from male/male bonding. Plus that, Lila wanted him as a boyfriend/spouse, not as just a friend. AND, she wanted him all to herself. I have had female/male bonding with a friend who is JUST a friend. (Really!) It is much different than bonding with a female friend. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	39. RE: DEXTER fans and their wiki.....The Power of Friends Nov 18 2008, 7:03 PM EST "The wind must be blowing in from the coast. I think I can smell it...... You know it is only about 1 hour drive from here to Petaluma. a little more I guess if you go with the traffic." Could you smell it? Oh, it looked and smelled really good. BUT...the inside filling was really good, but the graham cracker crust was gross! It tasted like a huge sugar mess rather than a crust. It was WAY too sweet. I must have gotten a crappy kind. (damn Keebler elves!) The next one I make will be with my own crust. Also, I am not a huge fan of meringue, so I think I will just make it without & use whipped cream on individual slices. My aunt & uncle live in Auburn. Is that close to you at all? Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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