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ZizzyB23 |
More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 16 2008, 10:45 PM EST
And like clockwork, the second "act" of this season of Dexter comes to a close and it leaves us with a huge development Dexter's going to have to deal with for the final act.I've got to say, I've always been a big fan of Harry, even when he became a jerk during season two, and now I'm glad he's the voice of wisdom again (even if Dexter doesn't listen to him). Is there anyone out there who thinks this relationship with Miguel is going to end well? I felt it was painfully obvious that Anton would get caught by "The Skinner" just be the way him and Deb looked at each other and made plans for the next morning (or whatever). They said what they said, and then I thought, "Oh! He's gone". My prediction (as much as I wish it wasn't true) is that Anton will make it out of this alive, although he'll be badly disfigured, and that he and Deb will settle down for a serious and healthy relationship, and that we'll see him next season (a lot like the Chutsky character and Deb in the Dexter novels). Where was Masuka this episode? I'm not the biggest Masuka fan, but that man is on the payroll. Make him work for his money! And I said it before and I'll say again. Where's the ghost of Doakes!? Erik King teased to it at the Emmys, and I expect him to live up to his word. What I'm wondering is if the issue of Dexter being the real "Bay Harbor Butcher" will ever come up? He won't show Miguel how he disposes of the bodies, or take some blood of his slide collection, and I'm guessing that's so he doesn't make the connection. I would like to see if Miguel may try to black mail Dexter with this information. And before anybody says anything, I think the exchange at the end with Rita about her having a "monster" inside was just for fun. I don't think ANYTHING will come of it. 11 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dexlvr3 |
1. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 16 2008, 11:34 PM EST
"And like clockwork, the second "act" of this season of Dexter comes to a close and it leaves us with a huge development Dexter's going to have to deal with for the final act.Dexter needs to listen to Harry! What is he thinking? I can't believe he's showing Miguel everything he does basically except for cutting up & disposing of the body. But you can tell he wants to show him that! Does Dex actually think that Miguel is his bestest friend? No, this is not going to end well. Especially after they showed Miguel end up at Ellen's house. First he's trying to get Dex to agree to kill her and now it shows that they are connected. Are they setting up Dex for the kill? The whole Anton thing was way too predictable which makes me wonder if that whole thing was a set up, too. I saw Anton on next week's previews so he is still alive. I think that Quinn & Anton set that up together. Deb,Deb,Deb...I think she's being used again because it is just so easy. So Mario the tree trimmer is scared to death of his boss. So, is the boss the skinner, or is the boss working for the skinner? I think that everybody is working for Miguel Prado, myself. Zizzy, I would actually like to see the ghost of Doakes myself, but I think that many people disagree with us. Oh, well! Masuka's character is great, but I don't think that they use him as much as they should. I think that the BHB will indeed come up again because I really don't think that it was resolved in everybody else's mind last season as to whether Doakes really was the killer or not. Rita was quite the monster herself tonight, huh? lol But, I think that it was just raging hormones. Okay, I have to think on this one some more. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 7:16 AM EST
I think Miguel has or still is having an affair with that defense attorney she may of threaten to tell his wife this is why he wanted to kill her i think they may of reconciled hence the last scene but Miguel ends up breaking the "code" and or killing someone he shouldn't have also he will die maybe at the hands of someone besides dexter similar to doakes (who may appear in a dream sequence according to past interviews the series will end with dexter getting married and saying some cliche thing about relationship and friends 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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krazykarl |
3. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 9:21 AM EST
I think dex is going to end up having to kill miguel. He's going to have to take responsibility for what he did (creating a killer out of miguel) the way his father couldn't. The reason Doakes had to die by someone else's hands was because he didn't fit the code, but from the looks of it, miguel may fit the code soon. I think miguel may realize that he's the BHB as well, but if he does, it'll be after its already too late for him. M C Hall's performance last night was stellar (more so than usual) I thought. Do you find this valuable? |
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CKrelax |
4. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 10:43 AM EST
"I think Miguel has or still is having an affair with that defense attorney she may of threaten to tell his wife this is why he wanted to kill herI thought the affair was with la guarta? If you are right, I didn't see that coming. Wow! well done! Is it unusual that dex doesn't have nightmares from his victims? When you speak of the way you see the series ending, are you referrring to a similar ending to Woody Harrelson as a married serial killer that kills the newscaster filming him as an end to hsi career and then goes and has a handful of kids and they drive off ina vw van at the end? That was a great ending. I liked the ending to "The Secretary". That is another great ending like what you are suggesting? 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 10:46 AM EST
"Dexter needs to listen to Harry! What is he thinking? I can't believe he's showing Miguel everything he does basically except for cutting up & disposing of the body. But you can tell he wants to show him that! Does Dex actually think that Miguel is his bestest friend? No, this is not going to end well. Especially after they showed Miguel end up at Ellen's house. First he's trying to get Dex to agree to kill her and now it shows that they are connected. Are they setting up Dex for the kill?I think Prado is going to be the Doakes type fall guy for this season. It was a great formula last season. But, this season is throwing out the surprises and I can't wait to see what happens next! 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CKrelax |
6. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 10:48 AM EST
"I think dex is going to end up having to kill miguel. He's going to have to take responsibility for what he did (creating a killer out of miguel) the way his father couldn't. The reason Doakes had to die by someone else's hands was because he didn't fit the code, but from the looks of it, miguel may fit the code soon. I think miguel may realize that he's the BHB as well, but if he does, it'll be after its already too late for him.Last night was excellent! I think Dex will have to kill Miguel because of the glazed look Miguel had at time and after the kill. He "got off" on it. That makes him way too predatory to be controled and an escalator. 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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CKrelax |
7. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 11:22 AM EST
"And like clockwork, the second "act" of this season of Dexter comes to a close and it leaves us with a huge development Dexter's going to have to deal with for the final act.I think the only total confession for Miguel by Dexter, would come with Miguel under clear wrap. I am a fan of Harry, as well. Not a hundred persent with his parenting skills, but like the character, and, like the actor portraying Harry. Harry continues to dress like dex, right? 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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krazykarl |
8. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 11:35 AM EST
"Last night was excellent! I think Dex will have to kill Miguel because of the glazed look Miguel had at time and after the kill. He "got off" on it. That makes him way too predatory to be controled and an escalator."I don't think the problem is that he "got off" from killing. Dexter seems to get off on it himself. Most of the time, the moment of the kill is almost an orgasm for him. The problem is more that miguel has only been learning the code for a day or two, whereas Dex had it worked into him for years as a kid. Do you find this valuable? |
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CKrelax |
9. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 12:52 PM EST
"I don't think the problem is that he "got off" from killing. Dexter seems to get off on it himself. Most of the time, the moment of the kill is almost an orgasm for him. The problem is more that miguel has only been learning the code for a day or two, whereas Dex had it worked into him for years as a kid. "You are right, you're right. I just read a synopsis of next week show and it appears to me that Rita is going to put herself in front of a moving train when she confronts Miguel. Do you think Miguel will be so off by then he may kidnap, harm or even kill, Rita? Holy guacamole ! The Dexter pot is starting to boil. Now that it is really heating up, the flavor smells good! 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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phishneslo |
10. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 1:25 PM EST
-- harry is a prude.-- no, the relationship with miguel will not end well. -- i think there is an equal chance that anton is in cahoots with the skinner, or is the skinner, than there is he will be disfigured and make it out alive. all those options total 50%, and the other 50% is that he will die. -- the ghost of dokes will come when dexter has to kill miguel. -- that dexter was the bay harbor butcher might come up between him and miguel. they alluded to that theme when dexter was asked how many times he had done this before. but i am certain if it does, miguel will be proud of dexter. he probably knows half the victims and thought they just disappeared. and i imagine miguel knows better than to blackmail dexter. -- i think the "monster" was her hormones making her crazy, not a reference to "a darkness within her" or dexter's progeny. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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zahmerica |
11. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 5:31 PM EST
Not nearly enough Rita for my liking this season. It's one thing to cast her aside temporarily, but she's been unusually absent in show. Considering that she's carrying one of the biggest storylines in her tummy, she could at least get some screen time, Eh, I'm not impressed. The great thing about seasons 1 & 2 was that they didn't waste the characters. They used them wisely.. even if they couldn't all be involved with Dex. The worst season of this show still would rank this as the #1 show on TV for me.
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chickensoup1 |
12. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 6:09 PM EST
"I think dex is going to end up having to kill miguel. He's going to have to take responsibility for what he did (creating a killer out of miguel) the way his father couldn't. The reason Doakes had to die by someone else's hands was because he didn't fit the code, but from the looks of it, miguel may fit the code soon. I think miguel may realize that he's the BHB as well, but if he does, it'll be after its already too late for him.I believe Miquel is a bit like Lila always in the way always self centered. I don't think it;s going to end well with Miguel considering his recent blunders but makes for small issues in the plot line. The Skinner where in the hell did they come up with tree trimmers and this that's more along the line of B&E and home invasion?! Do you find this valuable? |
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zahmerica |
13. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 6:28 PM EST
It seems like Syl and Rita are somehow going to be intertwined in this Miguel thing. That's not a spoiler, just speculation. It just seems to be heading that direction. I wonder how they could get involved.
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CKrelax |
14. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 17 2008, 9:15 PM EST
"I believe Miquel is a bit like Lila always in the way always self centered. I don't think it;s going to end well with Miguel considering his recent blunders but makes for small issues in the plot line. The Skinner where in the hell did they come up with tree trimmers and this that's more along the line of B&E and home invasion?!"I took a writing course that stated never come up with an arbitrary killer that wasn't introduced within the first half of the book. The readers won't trust you. So, I wonder if those guidelines are being upheld by the writers of this show meaning that the skinner would be someone we already know? For me, it is anybody's guess at this point. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dexlvr3 |
15. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 18 2008, 10:51 PM EST
"-- harry is a prude.How is Harry a prude? I'm curious to know your thoughts. The relationship with Miguel has to end because Jimmy Smits only signed on for one season. I think that Anton is in cahoots with the skinner, like you said. I think that Quinn & Anton are probably working together somehow. I would love to see the ghost of Doakes, so the sooner the better. I think that Miguel probably already knows that Dex is the BHB, but I don't think that he knows better than to blackmail Dex. He is pretty self absorbed and confident. I think that HE thinks that he could take out Dexter if necessary. (and boy do I have news for him!) I think that you are completely right about Rita's hormones. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 18 2008, 11:16 PM EST
"Where was Masuka this episode? I'm not the biggest Masuka fan, but that man is on the payroll. Make him work for his money!VERY good point. Anyone thinking what I am pondering? His disappearance and anger towards a copycat of the skinner case DOES make my wheels start to click a little. Do you find this valuable? |
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17. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 18 2008, 11:57 PM EST
"And like clockwork, the second "act" of this season of Dexter comes to a close and it leaves us with a huge development Dexter's going to have to deal with for the final act.I've got to agree with you on the Doakes issue. I would love to see his ghost come out with Harry's like a voice of reason. I don't think Ritas comment meant anything either. I'm still not certain that Miguel will kill Ellen. He did after all admit that Dex was right about her and seemed to let it go. I wonder if it was just a tease by playing just the right parts of the preview to keep our interest and make it appear that way. Perhaps her disappearance pertains to a case or something. I don't know, but what I do know is that Sil is a walking time bomb. Something is going to happen to her if she starts getting too close. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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18. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 19 2008, 2:56 AM EST
"at first, i thought that anton was going to be deb's "good relationship," but now i'm not so sure. what if anton's misdirection? i didn't think they would let deb choose wrong again (i mean, please, she falls for another serial killer?) but is this a double bluff? is anton merely a distraction, not the bad guy, but not deb's guy, if you see what i mean? I don't trust quinn, but i just don't see them having another killer on the force. i love these twists, though; it's making me so anxious! Do you find this valuable? |
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19. RE: More Thoughts on "The Damage a Man Can Do"
Nov 19 2008, 8:41 AM EST
"I've got to agree with you on the Doakes issue. I would love to see his ghost come out with Harry's like a voice of reason. I don't think Ritas comment meant anything either. I'm still not certain that Miguel will kill Ellen. He did after all admit that Dex was right about her and seemed to let it go. I wonder if it was just a tease by playing just the right parts of the preview to keep our interest and make it appear that way. Perhaps her disappearance pertains to a case or something. I don't know, but what I do know is that Sil is a walking time bomb. Something is going to happen to her if she starts getting too close. "Maybe Ellen is the skinner. lol I don't see that, but, on this show anything goes! Oh, and I don't see Anton as in with the skinner, can't wait to find out. I bet the next few episodes will bowl is over! 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |