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captainxark	Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 3:49 PM EST Please, please, enough on the nose dialogue. If I hear another plot point reiterated in plain language, well, I'll still keep watching. Also, in Episode 4(or 5?)...I know Dex was in a bad mood because he hadn't killed in a while, but did he really have to be mean to Rita in the 'No' scene? It was inconsistent, he knows better. The preceding scene, where he asked her and the kids to marry him, was transcendent and quite convincing. He doesn't feel, but he knows how not to be rude. If he was going to have problems being rude in his normal life, it should have been written into the first two seasons. It hurt to watch, it inflicted pain on the viewer, but without enough justification. Rita is the everyman, she is the audience, we are rooting for her more than for Dexter or anyone else. When and how she gets hurt is going to be the true tragedy, the real art, of the rest of the show, no matter what happens with Miguel or Deb. So when Dexter hurts her feelings, it shouldn't be cheap or his character will thin out. That's how, in the end, I'm going to decide if this show is pulp or lit. Otherwise, I'd like to tell the crew 'Bravo' for seasons 1 and 2, I was immensely entertained. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
mike91848	1. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 3:59 PM EST "Please, please, enough on the nose dialogue. If I hear another plot point reiterated in plain language, well, I'll still keep watching. Also, in Episode 4(or 5?)...I know Dex was in a bad mood because he hadn't killed in a while, but did he really have to be mean to Rita in the 'No' scene? It was inconsistent, he knows better. The preceding scene, where he asked her and the kids to marry him, was transcendent and quite convincing. He doesn't feel, but he knows how not to be rude. If he was going to have problems being rude in his normal life, it should have been written into the first two seasons. It hurt to watch, it inflicted pain on the viewer, but without enough justification. Rita is the everyman, she is the audience, we are rooting for her more than for Dexter or anyone else. When and how she gets hurt is going to be the true tragedy, the real art, of the rest of the show, no matter what happens with Miguel or Deb. So when Dexter hurts her feelings, it shouldn't be cheap or his character will thin out. That's how, in the end, I'm going to decide if this show is pulp or lit. Otherwise, I'd like to tell the crew 'Bravo' for seasons 1 and 2, I was immensely entertained. " I think Rita should have more screen time and should not get hurt, or the baby, in any of the plot threads this season, or any season. It the writers want to get her involved in a plot thread where something is happening other than a family matter it would be great but not at the expense of loosing the character or any of the kids. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Site_Administrator	2. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 5:41 PM EST Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
crocdundee	3. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 5:52 PM EST "Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is" mmm, is this a red herring? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	4. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 6:44 PM EST "mmm, is this a red herring?" Jay needs to see this. Maybe he was right! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	5. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 6:45 PM EST "Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is" Are you just another one of us pretending to be a site administrator? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crocdundee	6. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 6:48 PM EST "Are you just another one of us pretending to be a site administrator?" yeah how can we authenticate you? you might be an imposter. tell us something that only an insider would know???? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	7. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:00 PM EST "yeah how can we authenticate you? you might be an imposter. tell us something that only an insider would know????" Good one! Do you think it will work? C'mon, there's only 3 episodes left...spill! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crocdundee	8. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:04 PM EST "Good one! Do you think it will work? C'mon, there's only 3 episodes left...spill!" yeah think of it as a thanksgiving present oh wise site administrator (much bowing and tugging of forelock) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	9. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:07 PM EST "yeah think of it as a thanksgiving present oh wise site administrator (much bowing and tugging of forelock)" What is forelock? Or should I ask? lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	10. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:08 PM EST I looked it up, and yes, that's what we're doing alright! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crocdundee	11. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:14 PM EST "yeah think of it as a thanksgiving present oh wise site administrator (much bowing and tugging of forelock)" and much curtseying and big puppy dog eyes Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	12. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 7:18 PM EST "and much curtseying and big puppy dog eyes" The puppy dog eyes should work They always do! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PLZhopOFFmyD1CK	13. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 8:05 PM EST Unless I have two episodes mixed up, I believe it was tied in to the theme of that episode... Dex was realizing all of a sudden he was losing his freedom - his apartment, his free time,etc. It seems like they wanted to portray his more stubborn\childish side. He was realizing he was being forced to give up certain aspects of his life he hadn't planned on. Aside from the "no" scene, during the dream sequence when Harry explains he has to give up his things, he says (in a rather whiny voice I thought) 'But they're MINE!". He also stuck to his stubbornness when he said he'll make time for Rita and The Dark Passenger. It all seemed to just build up smoothly to him realizing what an ass he was being to Rita over the pregnancy and marriage. It may have been awkward to watch him and Rita argue, but I feel it was necessary for that to happen for Dex to appreciate having her in his life. Come to think of it, I believe the proposal and the "no" scene were two separate episodes now from what I remember... the proposal was the one where he sets up Ramon with the fake tipster; the "no" episode was the next one when he was on the cruise and Rita went to the hospital. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
mike91848	14. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 8:08 PM EST "Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is" If she's not the writers will have to spring a total surprise on us! I can only guess that she will take out Miguel if she's around and Miguel freaks out at her or the kids, or maybe Sylvia. If that is the case then, "GO RITA!" Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crocdundee	15. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 8:40 PM EST "If she's not the writers will have to spring a total surprise on us! I can only guess that she will take out Miguel if she's around and Miguel freaks out at her or the kids, or maybe Sylvia. If that is the case then, "GO RITA!"" Good one. She is on Syl's side and was calling Miguel an idiot because he was ruining it with Syl.She has obviously developed a bond with Syl and in some way may confront Miguel when he is doing a dirty deed or trying to harm Dexter. sorry this isn't to in depth as im trying to eat at the same time! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
spya	16. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 8:45 PM EST "Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is" OOOH! Is this a tidbit? Give me more. You do not just a bite to someone who is starving and expect them to be satisfied. Do we need to sneak up behind you with a syringe in hand? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
dexlvr3	17. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 9:14 PM EST "OOOH! Is this a tidbit? Give me more. You do not just a bite to someone who is starving and expect them to be satisfied. Do we need to sneak up behind you with a syringe in hand?" Do I see sheets of plastic in your future? There are a few of us here ya know! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
clairebbbear	18. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 9:19 PM EST "Unless I have two episodes mixed up, I believe it was tied in to the theme of that episode... Dex was realizing all of a sudden he was losing his freedom - his apartment, his free time,etc. It seems like they wanted to portray his more stubborn\childish side. He was realizing he was being forced to give up certain aspects of his life he hadn't planned on. Aside from the "no" scene, during the dream sequence when Harry explains he has to give up his things, he says (in a rather whiny voice I thought) 'But they're MINE!". He also stuck to his stubbornness when he said he'll make time for Rita and The Dark Passenger. It all seemed to just build up smoothly to him realizing what an ass he was being to Rita over the pregnancy and marriage. It may have been awkward to watch him and Rita argue, but I feel it was necessary for that to happen for Dex to appreciate having her in his life. Come to think of it, I believe the proposal and the "no" scene were two separate episodes now from what I remember... the proposal was the one where he sets up Ramon with the fake tipster; the "no" episode was the next one when he was on the cruise and Rita went to the hospital." Exactly. People seem to be forgetting here that: 1. Dexter doesn't actually love Rita, or at least, he doesn't think he does (remember all the "this is all pretence" talk in the last episode?). 2. He doesn't have a natural empathy for how she is feeling, although he's getting better at it, so he wouldn't really know that saying 'no' so abruptly would upset or. (Or, because he doesn't love her, he knows but doesn't care.) 3. He'd suddenly realised what the hell he was getting himself into with the whole marriage thing, which I don't think he'd really considered when he proposed. 4. He's still really quite awkward at blurting things out instead of saying things more subtly. He's done it heaps throughout this season, including the time when he's trying to tell himself to break the news gently to Miguel about not killing Ellen, but instead he just blurts out "we can't kill her". Diplomacy isn't always Dexter's greatest skill when he's personally involved with something. And you're right, this scene was in the following episode to the proposal, and I think it is set at least a few days later. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
crocdundee	19. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues Nov 26 2008, 9:21 PM EST "Do I see sheets of plastic in your future? There are a few of us here ya know!" yes we've learned a few things about bumping people off and we don't really have a code as such Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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