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mike91848
20. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:25 PM EST
"yeah how can we authenticate you?
you might be an imposter.
tell us something that only an insider would know????"
Good question. I think that if they were an impostor the moderators would take them off. My guess is different moderators can use this to communicate more directly when needed. And yes they should still throw something our way.

Here's one. What episode in season 4 will the baby be born?
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Site_Administrator
Site_Administrator
21. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:46 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:46 PM EST
We have a code here to and unfortunately giving "hints" or "tidbits" are not part of it. My poor young Dexters out there, do I see a knife running across your cheek in the near future? You know what the code is, if anyone goes against it...........well, you know. Do you find this valuable?    
JayC16
JayC16
22. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:48 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:48 PM EST
"Also, in Episode 4(or 5?)...I know Dex was in a bad mood because he hadn't killed in a while, but did he really have to be mean to Rita in the 'No' scene? It was inconsistent, he knows better. The preceding scene, where he asked her and the kids to marry him, was transcendent and quite convincing. He doesn't feel, but he knows how not to be rude. If he was going to have problems being rude in his normal life, it should have been written into the first two seasons.

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I think Dexter was rude, as you put it, when Rita asked him to go house hunting with her because of what has been going on in his mind. He was realizing, with the help of Harry, that his life would never be the same. Harry emphasized that by telling him that Rita would not like his lamp, and that he had to leave it, among several other things that he told Dex. Killing is Dexter's favorite thing to do in the whole wide world. Imagine black being your favorite color to wear, and now your new fiance tells you that you must wear white. I think it is natural (maybe a form of self preservation) to say "No." Granted, he could have been a bit more tactful, but on the verge of loosing his freedom, as his mentor Harry has told him, I can understand his response. And immediately he did tone it down and gave her his reason for not wanting to go house hunting.
As far as showing his rude side in seasons 1 and 2, he never confronted any situation which was putting in jeopardy his complete freedom to come and go as he pleased. This is new for him, so I think it is expected that he might show some new reactions to these new situations.
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JayC16
JayC16
23. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:51 PM EST
"I think Rita should have more screen time and should not get hurt, or the baby, in any of the plot threads this season, or any season. It the writers want to get her involved in a plot thread where something is happening other than a family matter it would be great but not at the expense of loosing the character or any of the kids."
I'm really surprised to hear you say that!
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mike91848
24. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:51 PM EST
"We have a code here to and unfortunately giving "hints" or "tidbits" are not part of it. My poor young Dexters out there, do I see a knife running across your cheek in the near future? You know what the code is, if anyone goes against it...........well, you know. "
I had to try! Thanks for putting the slides away! LOL!
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mike91848
25. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:55 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:55 PM EST
"I'm really surprised to hear you say that!"
Really? 3000 other Dexter fans just PM'd me saying the same thing. I have a reputation I guess.......................

Oh Rita, you can come out now! It's safe again!
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JayC16
JayC16
26. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:56 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:56 PM EST
"Unless I have two episodes mixed up, I believe it was tied in to the theme of that episode... Dex was realizing all of a sudden he was losing his freedom - his apartment, his free time,etc. It seems like they wanted to portray his more stubborn\childish side. He was realizing he was being forced to give up certain aspects of his life he hadn't planned on.

Aside from the "no" scene, during the dream sequence when Harry explains he has to give up his things, he says (in a rather whiny voice I thought) 'But they're MINE!". He also stuck to his stubbornness when he said he'll make time for Rita and The Dark Passenger. It all seemed to just build up smoothly to him realizing what an ass he was being to Rita over the pregnancy and marriage. It may have been awkward to watch him and Rita argue, but I feel it was necessary for that to happen for Dex to appreciate having her in his life.

Come to think of it, I believe the proposal and the "no" scene were two separate episodes now from what I remember... the proposal was the one where he sets up Ramon with the fake tipster; the "no" episode was the next one when he was on the cruise and Rita went to the hospital."
Excellent response!!
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JayC16
JayC16
27. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 10:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 10:59 PM EST
"OOOH! Is this a tidbit? Give me more. You do not just a bite to someone who is starving and expect them to be satisfied. Do we need to sneak up behind you with a syringe in hand?"
I'll bring the seran wrap again.
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JayC16
JayC16
28. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 11:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 11:04 PM EST
"yes we've learned a few things about bumping people off and we don't really have a code as such"
Our only code is make sure they stop breathing!
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JayC16
JayC16
29. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 26 2008, 11:55 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2008, 11:55 PM EST
"Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is"
I heard that Miguel was planning to go to Rita's house and kill Sylvia there and plan to make Dexter look like the killer. And that when Miguel was strangling Sylvia from behind as she sat on the couch, Rita was going to jump Miguel from behind, rip his eyeball out with her fingernails, while shouting; "you mother F****r.," teeth clenched. And then Dexter was going to walk in and finish him off, but not before Sylvia did a Lorena Bobbit on him. Is this true?
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JayC16
JayC16
30. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 12:00 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 12:00 AM EST
"Jay needs to see this. Maybe he was right!"
Thanks for the heads up!
I remembered something else Rita told Dex the day he gave her the engagement ring.
I had said that she said to Dexter that she: "Had a monster inside". What she actually said was that she had a monster inside THAT SHE CANNOT CONTROL. (something to that effect.) Hmmmmm!
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crocdundee
crocdundee
31. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 12:12 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 12:12 AM EST
"I heard that Miguel was planning to go to Rita's house and kill Sylvia there and plan to make Dexter look like the killer. And that when Miguel was strangling Sylvia from behind as she sat on the couch, Rita was going to jump Miguel from behind, rip his eyeball out with her fingernails, while shouting; "you mother F****r.," teeth clenched. And then Dexter was going to walk in and finish him off, but not before Sylvia did a Lorena Bobbit on him. Is this true? "
is it Mike that has the thing going with Rita? He's going to be so peed off if she turns out bad.
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mike91848
32. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 12:21 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 12:21 AM EST
"I heard that Miguel was planning to go to Rita's house and kill Sylvia there and plan to make Dexter look like the killer. And that when Miguel was strangling Sylvia from behind as she sat on the couch, Rita was going to jump Miguel from behind, rip his eyeball out with her fingernails, while shouting; "you mother F****r.," teeth clenched. And then Dexter was going to walk in and finish him off, but not before Sylvia did a Lorena Bobbit on him. Is this true? "
I can just picture this so clearly! What page on the script is this?
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mike91848
33. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 12:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 12:22 AM EST
"is it Mike that has the thing going with Rita? He's going to be so peed off if she turns out bad."
Bad in a good way!
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dexlvr3
dexlvr3
34. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 12:24 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 12:24 AM EST
"Bad in a good way!"
Oooohhh Mike, nasty little Rita! Bad, bad girl! hahaha
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Hanksfuture1stwife
Hanksfuture1stwife
35. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 1:07 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 1:07 AM EST
"Exactly.

People seem to be forgetting here that:
1. Dexter doesn't actually love Rita, or at least, he doesn't think he does (remember all the "this is all pretence" talk in the last episode?).

2. He doesn't have a natural empathy for how she is feeling, although he's getting better at it, so he wouldn't really know that saying 'no' so abruptly would upset or. (Or, because he doesn't love her, he knows but doesn't care.)

3. He'd suddenly realised what the hell he was getting himself into with the whole marriage thing, which I don't think he'd really considered when he proposed.

4. He's still really quite awkward at blurting things out instead of saying things more subtly. He's done it heaps throughout this season, including the time when he's trying to tell himself to break the news gently to Miguel about not killing Ellen, but instead he just blurts out "we can't kill her". Diplomacy isn't always Dexter's greatest skill when he's personally involved with something.

And you're right, this scene was in the following episode to the proposal, and I think it is set at least a few days later. "
I would suggest that even though Dexter cannot experience natural feelings of resonance or empathy, what he can realize is the value he places on innocence, which up until this point, is what Rita has in abundance. If Rita were suddenly to become less than innocent, she would be lessened in his eyes, which would start the process of devaluation. This is the reason children are such sympathetic creatures to Dexter - they are totally innocent. What Rita represents, i.e., normalcy, is grounding to Dexter's narcissism. With Rita, he appears completely normal.

I've seen on other threads that the writers peruse these threads for ideas. If that is so, I would like to throw out Dexter being confronted by a totally evil child - a Damien - Satan's Spawn - a child so evil that, well, it certainly would be a conundrum. Dexter did have a situation with a teenager, and he let him go because the boy had been twisted by circumstance and Dexter felt empathy for him in that situation. The teenager went on to kill himself. Anyway, that's my two cents for today - haha!
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spya
spya
36. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 1:38 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 1:38 AM EST
"Do I see sheets of plastic in your future? There are a few of us here ya know!"
Oh No, not the sheets!!! (Mock horror). I did say we, I did say we, I did say we-not I.
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spya
spya
37. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 1:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 1:42 AM EST
"Oooohhh Mike, nasty little Rita! Bad, bad girl! hahaha"
LOL! Spank me, harder, harder, harder-ooooh! Now pull my hair-harder, where's my whip? lol!!!
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K9tblaze911
K9tblaze911
38. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 11:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 11:06 AM EST
"I think Rita should have more screen time and should not get hurt, or the baby, in any of the plot threads this season, or any season. It the writers want to get her involved in a plot thread where something is happening other than a family matter it would be great but not at the expense of loosing the character or any of the kids."
Rita is going to be the skinner Mike...watch out buddy....when she finds out the baby is YOURS, she is going to go nuts...!!
NONONO...the baby is Miguel's....hahahahahah
Just playing with you Mike.....You know I am probably the only one who does not like Rita that much......
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K9tblaze911
K9tblaze911
39. RE: Season 3 Writing Issues
Nov 27 2008, 11:07 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2008, 11:07 AM EST
"Maybe Rita isn't the angel you think she is"
Rita's dark passenger is going to reveal itself.....???
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