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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 10:57 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 10:57 PM EST
Man it feels to to be right. Like I predicted, Dexter was kidnapped for his bachelor party and NOT by the skinner. It was great watching Dexter's reactions to all the debauchery happening around him.

This episode was great. Maybe the best in the season. To me, there were so many funny lines (or non-lines; Masuka pointing to his pubic area). Deb has begun to find out the truth about Harry and has requested more information about him and his C.I.'s. She's going to find out about Harry and Dexter's real mom. Maybe she'll even find out about Rudy being Dexter's brother. That'd be great. I wonder if when she found out, she would think she has to keep it a secret from Dexter.

I loved that Masuka was stoked because the Tammy girl he was with had issues. By his logic, that means they are compatible. I hope something comes from this relationship. Masuka could use some drama.

And what about Deb and Quinn? I really like him so I would love if them two got together. I don't know if it will really happen since they spent so much time building up Anton's character. Perhaps they're simply planting the seeds of a future love story for another season.

I like the idea of Deb being Dexter's best man. It's not going to help Deb's image, but its a sweet notion on Dexter's part.

Miguel's last moments were amazing! I felt like a dork because I literally said, "Yes!!!!!!" when Dexter told Miguel he killed his brother. The way he said it was so perfect.

The Skinner is still out there though. Something's gonna happen between him and Dex. He probably won't take to kindly Dexter pinning Miguel's murder on him.

It saddens me that after next week, we have to wait another 9 months till another Dexter. This season went by too fast. I wish there were more. It's definitely better than season two.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
1. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:04 PM EST
"Man it feels to to be right."
And by that, I mean it feels GOOD to be right.

And also, what about Yuki? Did that story line wrap up and I wasn't paying attention?

And the baby? Is this really going to happen? I'm sure the wedding will but I'm not convinced about the baby. I know anything can happen in Dexter, but this doesn't sound too unlikely: imagine next episode Dexter gets kidnapped by the skinner on the wedding day, Rita gets so stressed and worried, and she miscarries the baby.

I can't put my finger on it but I really don't want the baby to happen. Not yet at least. It'll change the shows dynamic too much. Let's save that for the finale of next season, or perhaps the series finale!

And I guess I've pretty much given up hope on seeing the ghost of Doakes in this. It would've been real nice to see him again. Poor Erik King. He played his part SO WELL the writers decided to kick him out of the show. Now how is he suppose to feed his children? They owe him a small cameo at least. He could've appeared to Dexter like Harry does.

And once more PLEASE NO SPOILERS PEOPLE!
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DexterMorganFan
2. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:05 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:05 PM EST
At the end when Dexter was going to kill Miguel there was two pictures one being Ellen Wolf and was the other one LaGuerta?I hope they don't kill her off.
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mike91848
3. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:07 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:07 PM EST
"Man it feels to to be right. Like I predicted, Dexter was kidnapped for his bachelor party and NOT by the skinner. It was great watching Dexter's reactions to all the debauchery happening around him.

This episode was great. Maybe the best in the season. To me, there were so many funny lines (or non-lines; Masuka pointing to his pubic area). Deb has begun to find out the truth about Harry and has requested more information about him and his C.I.'s. She's going to find out about Harry and Dexter's real mom. Maybe she'll even find out about Rudy being Dexter's brother. That'd be great. I wonder if when she found out, she would think she has to keep it a secret from Dexter.

I loved that Masuka was stoked because the Tammy girl he was with had issues. By his logic, that means they are compatible. I hope something comes from this relationship. Masuka could use some drama.

And what about Deb and Quinn? I really like him so I would love if them two got together. I don't know if it will really happen since they spent so much time building up Anton's character. Perhaps they're simply planting the seeds of a future love story for another season.

I like the idea of Deb being Dexter's best man. It's not going to help Deb's image, but its a sweet notion on Dexter's part.

Miguel's last moments were amazing! I felt like a dork because I literally said, "Yes!!!!!!" when Dexter told Miguel he killed his brother. The way he said it was so perfect.

The Skinner is still out there though. Something's gonna happen between him and Dex. He probably won't take to kindly Dexter pinning Miguel's murder on him.

It saddens me that after next week, we have to wait another 9 months till another Dexter. This season went by too fast. I wish there were more. It's definitely better than season two."
I liked this episode a lot too. It had some good moments that you pointed out. Miguel is gone and Dexter has Ramon and George to deal with. George meets the code, Ramon doesn't. These two guys just may be a carry over to next season. The kill scene was great. Miguel thinking 'Knife" and he got strangled. The wedding? The baby? Next week will be great. I wonder if Showtime has numbers for viewers for a given episode? Don’t know how but if they did I would love to see how many tune in to the last episode.
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mike91848
4. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:11 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:11 PM EST
"At the end when Dexter was going to kill Miguel there was two pictures one being Ellen Wolf and was the other one LaGuerta?I hope they don't kill her off.
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I think that was Dexter's way of saying that he knew Miguel was there to kill Maria.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
5. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:11 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:11 PM EST
"At the end when Dexter was going to kill Miguel there was two pictures one being Ellen Wolf and was the other one LaGuerta?I hope they don't kill her off.
"
Oh they won't. She's in the previews for the next episode. I had a similar thought. This show LOVES to kill off it's primary characters. It would be ridiculous to do that to La Guerta.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
6. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:13 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:13 PM EST
"I liked this episode a lot too. It had some good moments that you pointed out. Miguel is gone and Dexter has Ramon and George to deal with. George meets the code, Ramon doesn't. These two guys just may be a carry over to next season. The kill scene was great. Miguel thinking 'Knife" and he got strangled. The wedding? The baby? Next week will be great. I wonder if Showtime has numbers for viewers for a given episode? Don’t know how but if they did I would love to see how many tune in to the last episode."
We've only got about 50 more minutes of Dexter this season. They've got a lot of ground to cover. I have full confidence that they will pull it off though. Mike, you must be psyched to see Rita in a wedding dress. I'm sure she'll look gorgeous.
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mike91848
7. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 7 2008, 11:21 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2008, 11:21 PM EST
"We've only got about 50 more minutes of Dexter this season. They've got a lot of ground to cover. I have full confidence that they will pull it off though. Mike, you must be psyched to see Rita in a wedding dress. I'm sure she'll look gorgeous."
Just one problem, I'm not the groom! LOL. Yes, I want to see Rita and Dexter get married and have the baby. I know it's a stretch at this point but it could happen. Maybe this season will have a cliff hanger afterall? I thought the signing for S4 and S5 came after the filming but maybe they shot different endings just in case! Otherwise if the crew thought that this would be the last season then the wedding and the baby in the oven would be there. next week will be a good one.
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dexlvr3
dexlvr3
8. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 12:19 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 12:19 AM EST
"Just one problem, I'm not the groom! LOL. Yes, I want to see Rita and Dexter get married and have the baby. I know it's a stretch at this point but it could happen. Maybe this season will have a cliff hanger afterall? I thought the signing for S4 and S5 came after the filming but maybe they shot different endings just in case! Otherwise if the crew thought that this would be the last season then the wedding and the baby in the oven would be there. next week will be a good one."
I agree, Mike. I think that we are going to have a cliff hanger. It looks that way from the previews anyway.
At this point I don't even know if the wedding is going to take place. The thing about the baby, in some previews it shows Rita with a little bulge. Is that next year? Because now, her stomach is flat as a board. If this was like any other series, she would have been 6 months pregnant by now. Maybe they actually looked at what we wrote or like Mike said, maybe they filmed different endings & got picked up afterwards. Astor, Cody & Rita have pretty much disappeared. Rita is only around for small scenes when needed. (sorry Mike!) For this season starting out as Dexter being family man, they sure have changed it a lot in the last few episodes. I'm kinda glad in a way. He is getting back to being Dexter again.
I was so stoked that he actually killed Miguel himself! That was great! And not only did he kill him, but he told him about Oscar. I just have one question...for someone that is so intent on not getting caught, did he actually kill Miguel in LaGuerta's house? Because it sure looked that way. Even if he reached her with the phone call, which I'm sure was a set up for Miguel, what if she would have come home? Did Dexter tell her to stay someplace else just in case Miguel found out or what?
I wonder myself if Ramon & the skinner are going to carry over to next season. My feeling is that Dexter is going to have to get the skinner to kill Ramon. 3 Prado's killed is going to look very suspicious unless they tie it in with big drug business.
I think that once Deb starts digging around for evidence on Harry, she's most definitely gonna find out about Brian, and possibly about Dexter being his brother. Maybe next season will deal with that. Maybe Deb will then put 2 & 2 together about why Dexter was there to save her from Brian.
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dexlvr3
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9. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 12:23 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 12:23 AM EST
Great show tonight. I honestly don't think this season started out on a strong point, but it is promising to end strong and like I said, possibly with a cliff hanger ending. It looks like, from the previews anyway, that even though they search Dexter's apt., they don't find his slides. (not a spoiler. in the previews.) He still has Ellen's ring. I wonder what he did with that?
Will there be a wedding? Will there be a baby? We shall see next week...or not!
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medcsu
medcsu
10. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 1:00 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 1:00 AM EST
The problem is that in the previews for next week we see 2 things. 1) Dexters house is ransacked with an emphasis on the AC 2) Dexter is tied up.
Soooooo my concern is Ramon finds the blood slides AND the ring and that puts Dexter into a shitstorm. Also, he is captured? I just dont see HOW they can fit the wedding, Ramon issue, and Miguel death, AND skinner into 50 minutes. Yikes....
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Bexaida
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11. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 11:58 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 11:58 AM EST
I agree with you. This episode was amazing. It had drama, humor and some of his famous lines, like "Tonight's the night". Wow, it brought the show to his earlier episodes. I'missed that. I was glued to my set. I just couldn't get enough of yesterday's episode. I wanted more. Now I have to wait for one more episode and how many more months to go? It's maddening I tell you.

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PLZhopOFFmyD1CK
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12. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 2:24 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 2:24 PM EST
Last night's was definitely the most intense one yet. I think my favorite aspect of it was the lack of music. There were a few scenes where it was so quiet, the dialog really took over. Also helped not giving away what will happen in the next few moments (they have a tendency to play the one theme with the drums before something big is about to happen). When they finally brought in the one theme with the violins, it was beyond perfect (during the last scene). The camera circling the room, the color tinting after he kills Miguel, the fingers breaking through... all perfect. Gave me chills.

I've really been hoping all season Miguel knew about Dexter killing Oscar all along. I had imagined a scene where Miguel has control of the situation, and tells Dex about it just to see his reaction. It was a treat to see Dex say it to Miguel's face, but that would have been just as interesting in my opinion. Either way, no complaints.

The Yuki thing has to pan out... Deb's asking about Quinn's money (again), and Quinn seems to be a likable character at this point. It would be a great time for him to do something to leave season 4 open for some big twist. I like the Yuki\Deb scenes... they really give Deb a chance to explore how vulgar her vocabulary can be.
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piratefetus
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13. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 3:29 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 3:29 PM EST
This was an incredible episode.

I think Dexter may have made a mistake though... not sure if they'd pick up on this in the show.

But he was going to make it look like the skinner did the killing right? Copying his M.O. and all that... but he did it wrong.

As we saw, when the skinner was trying to kill Anton, he cuts their skin BEFORE strangling his victims.

Dexter strangled Miguel first, and I guess we can assume he'll cut out parts of his skin afterward...

A good forensics person would be able to figure out that this was done differently.

Then again, I guess Dexter would be the one who has to figure that out... so he'll cover his ass haha.

Just something that occurred to me.

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mike91848
14. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 3:52 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 3:52 PM EST
"This was an incredible episode.

I think Dexter may have made a mistake though... not sure if they'd pick up on this in the show.

But he was going to make it look like the skinner did the killing right? Copying his M.O. and all that... but he did it wrong.

As we saw, when the skinner was trying to kill Anton, he cuts their skin BEFORE strangling his victims.

Dexter strangled Miguel first, and I guess we can assume he'll cut out parts of his skin afterward...

A good forensics person would be able to figure out that this was done differently.

Then again, I guess Dexter would be the one who has to figure that out... so he'll cover his ass haha.

Just something that occurred to me.

"
I though of that too! We will will see...........
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stinger4life
15. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 6:43 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 6:43 PM EST
I haven't seen next weeks preview or anything, but one thing is troubling me. Why was this episode called "I Had a Dream"?

How sure are we that the murder of Miguel was real? Don't people usually associate dreaming with black and white? It would explain why they ended the episode with a cliffhanger and why they faded out the color. Don't get me wrong it is very likely that Miguel was legitimately killed off, but there is that possibility that Dexter "...Had a Dream".

The reason I think so is because Dexter went outside his routine, which is insanely hard for someone like him to do. What I am referring to is he didn't cut the cheek to collect a blood sample, nor did he stab Miguel. If he plans to pin the murder on the Skinner then as was said he didn't follow the MO of the Skinner.

As for the question of if Dexter killed Miguel in LaGuerta's house, I am pretty sure he "killed" him in Ellin Wolfe's house.
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zahmerica
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16. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 6:46 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 6:46 PM EST
They waited way too long for the good stuff. They need to figure out a way to give us more episodes. This is madness. I'm getting really into the show finally and there's one episode left. Plus I really wanted more Rita this year. I feel like they left her out too much. It seems like she earned this wedding and still might not get it. Agggh. I'm avoiding any showtime shows in the future. This show sucked me in and the season length and hiatus is the opposite of pleasant. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
PLZhopOFFmyD1CK
PLZhopOFFmyD1CK
17. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 7:07 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 7:07 PM EST
"I haven't seen next weeks preview or anything, but one thing is troubling me. Why was this episode called "I Had a Dream"?

How sure are we that the murder of Miguel was real? Don't people usually associate dreaming with black and white? It would explain why they ended the episode with a cliffhanger and why they faded out the color. Don't get me wrong it is very likely that Miguel was legitimately killed off, but there is that possibility that Dexter "...Had a Dream".

The reason I think so is because Dexter went outside his routine, which is insanely hard for someone like him to do. What I am referring to is he didn't cut the cheek to collect a blood sample, nor did he stab Miguel. If he plans to pin the murder on the Skinner then as was said he didn't follow the MO of the Skinner.

As for the question of if Dexter killed Miguel in LaGuerta's house, I am pretty sure he "killed" him in Ellin Wolfe's house."
Great post. I had a similar thought, but figured it would be too far fetched. Then again, getting to see Dex kill Miguel possibly a second time would be rather amazing.

I think he didn't cut Miguel's cheek, due to the fact he needs to leave a body for them to find and doesn't want to link it back to The Bay Harbor Butcher.... also it wouldn't fit the MO of The Skinner.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
18. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 7:19 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 7:19 PM EST
"Last night's was definitely the most intense one yet. I think my favorite aspect of it was the lack of music. There were a few scenes where it was so quiet, the dialog really took over. Also helped not giving away what will happen in the next few moments (they have a tendency to play the one theme with the drums before something big is about to happen). When they finally brought in the one theme with the violins, it was beyond perfect (during the last scene). The camera circling the room, the color tinting after he kills Miguel, the fingers breaking through... all perfect. Gave me chills."
Also, you may have noticed the particular theme you are talking about at the very end (I believe it is called "Blood Theme") was black backwards. You can tell because the sounds all sound bazaar. Don't know what the significance of that is, perhaps it was just to show how important this particular act was for Dexter.
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ZizzyB23
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19. RE: Thoughts on "I Had a Dream"
Dec 8 2008, 7:27 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2008, 7:27 PM EST
"This was an incredible episode.

I think Dexter may have made a mistake though... not sure if they'd pick up on this in the show.

But he was going to make it look like the skinner did the killing right? Copying his M.O. and all that... but he did it wrong.

As we saw, when the skinner was trying to kill Anton, he cuts their skin BEFORE strangling his victims.

Dexter strangled Miguel first, and I guess we can assume he'll cut out parts of his skin afterward...

A good forensics person would be able to figure out that this was done differently.

Then again, I guess Dexter would be the one who has to figure that out... so he'll cover his ass haha.

Just something that occurred to me.

"
I'm assuming Dexter knows more about forensics than any of us do, so perhaps there is a chance that if he skins him quick enough after he strangles him, there would be no way to tell it was postmortem.

Also, Dexter will be doing the blood work so he could just lie, but wouldn't Masuka be the one looking at the skinning? Dexter really just does spatter.

However, what will probably be the explanation is that the skinner had to dispatch of Miguel quickly (since he is a pretty big dude). Remember, the skinner's initial killings would have the victim killed before the skinning process actually took place. And since everyone saw Miguel talked to the skinner privately in the police station, people could infer that the skinner was angry at Miguel or something.
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