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m1guel1to
m1guel1to
1457. RE: predict season 4
Nov 5 2009, 8:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 8:12 PM EST
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sbyerley
sbyerley
1458. RE: predict season 4
Nov 5 2009, 9:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 9:59 PM EST
This is Arthur's 2nd wife (and possibly family) - What happened to the 1st wife?

What is up with this episode's bathtub scene of Arthur and his wife!!!

Being in the same position in the tub with a mirror to admire her beauty while being so loving. This was used in (#1) of the trinity murders, ( and his sister's death -which may be a murder too - but not proven yet).

What meaning does the mirror have?
Did Arthur murder his sister?
Was she a suicide - if so why? And why in the bathtub? Symbols, meaning?

Anyone have ideas here?
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
1459. RE: predict season 4
Nov 5 2009, 10:35 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 10:35 PM EST
"This is Arthur's 2nd wife (and possibly family) - What happened to the 1st wife?

What is up with this episode's bathtub scene of Arthur and his wife!!!

Being in the same position in the tub with a mirror to admire her beauty while being so loving. This was used in (#1) of the trinity murders, ( and his sister's death -which may be a murder too - but not proven yet).

What meaning does the mirror have?
Did Arthur murder his sister?
Was she a suicide - if so why? And why in the bathtub? Symbols, meaning?

Anyone have ideas here?
"
When he picked up the mirror and showed his wife her reflection, I really was expecting him to kill her. Although I think it would be a great twist, I wouldn't think the writers could pull something like that off with 6 more episodes to go. I can't wait till this weeks episode and the cliffhanger the writers are bound to leave us with.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1460. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 1:01 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 1:01 AM EST
"This is Arthur's 2nd wife (and possibly family) - What happened to the 1st wife?

What is up with this episode's bathtub scene of Arthur and his wife!!!

Being in the same position in the tub with a mirror to admire her beauty while being so loving. This was used in (#1) of the trinity murders, ( and his sister's death -which may be a murder too - but not proven yet).

What meaning does the mirror have?
Did Arthur murder his sister?
Was she a suicide - if so why? And why in the bathtub? Symbols, meaning?

Anyone have ideas here?
"
The mirror was just simply to watch the face of the person in front of you.

He likes to watch his wifes face and with the Death of the victim in the tub?? I always thought it was simply to watch the life drain from her face...

Sister suicide, am not at all sure how she died. Other than a suicide, But I have a feeling it was th same way,, meaning blead to death in the tub ,, So this is why Arthur is redoing the same death the same way each time. Same with the mother and the father etc.

I dont think he did it though. Although his craziness may have some precipitating factor. He may be crazy and have had freaked out the family...

Or the crazy's may be a genatic thing for them..
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sbyerley
sbyerley
1461. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 8:05 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 8:05 AM EST
"The mirror was just simply to watch the face of the person in front of you.

He likes to watch his wifes face and with the Death of the victim in the tub?? I always thought it was simply to watch the life drain from her face...
"
Right ! So if he wants to watch the person's face - couldn't he do that much better standing in front of them - outside of the tub.

Why In the Tub and Behind them Looking in a mirror?

Did he sneak into his sister's bath long ago? Then what might have happened? An accident? Murder? Watching her suicide?

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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
1462. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 12:13 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 12:13 PM EST
"Right ! So if he wants to watch the person's face - couldn't he do that much better standing in front of them - outside of the tub.

Why In the Tub and Behind them Looking in a mirror?

Did he sneak into his sister's bath long ago? Then what might have happened? An accident? Murder? Watching her suicide?

"
Thats what I was thinking. He has his sisters ashes, not his dads or moms. And the first murder of the three represents his sister committing "suicide". Although I hope this isn't the case, cause it would just be plain weird, [but who knows, that might be what the writers strive for this season], but maybe he had a thing for his sister or something. Maybe he got in the bathtub with her and killed her to make it look like suicide. And then he started killing the rest of his family for some reason.
I personally, still think that his sister was looking at herself in the mirror before she killed herself, and her mom couldn't take the pain of losing her, so she jumped, so that left Authur with an abusive father,[most likely drunk] who beat on Authur, and then one day Authur killed him.
But the writers always try to make us think one way, and then completely blow our minds with a twist.
So I'm most likely wrong, but its still a possibility.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
1463. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 1:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 1:10 PM EST
"This is Arthur's 2nd wife (and possibly family) - What happened to the 1st wife?

What is up with this episode's bathtub scene of Arthur and his wife!!!

Being in the same position in the tub with a mirror to admire her beauty while being so loving. This was used in (#1) of the trinity murders, ( and his sister's death -which may be a murder too - but not proven yet).

What meaning does the mirror have?
Did Arthur murder his sister?
Was she a suicide - if so why? And why in the bathtub? Symbols, meaning?

Anyone have ideas here?
"
I think Dexter may wind up saving the Trinity killers family from him murdering them. But, if he does, does he tell anyone they were saved from a serial killer? I don't think so. Better unsolved and under the sea than spotlighting family life of a serial killer. Especially one that mimic Dexters scenario so well. Dex is younger and stronger than Trinity, he will be a surprise to Trinity when he does get caught by Dexter. Right?
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
1464. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 2:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 2:06 PM EST
"I think Dexter may wind up saving the Trinity killers family from him murdering them. But, if he does, does he tell anyone they were saved from a serial killer? I don't think so. Better unsolved and under the sea than spotlighting family life of a serial killer. Especially one that mimic Dexters scenario so well. Dex is younger and stronger than Trinity, he will be a surprise to Trinity when he does get caught by Dexter. Right?"
I don't know, never judge a book by its cover, Trinity was killing for 30 years, with only one person suspecting him,[Lundy] and when he got close, Trinity killed him and covered it up with a different serial killers M.O.
So far, Trinity is far more better than Dexter in everyway. And thats why Dexter hasn't killed him, yet. He knows that Trinity is better. Trinity blends in, he and his family are happy, and he has his "after hours" planned well.
Dexter is learning from Trinity, so hopefully one day, he can be as successful.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1465. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 2:56 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 2:56 PM EST
"Right ! So if he wants to watch the person's face - couldn't he do that much better standing in front of them - outside of the tub.

Why In the Tub and Behind them Looking in a mirror?

Did he sneak into his sister's bath long ago? Then what might have happened? An accident? Murder? Watching her suicide?

"
This is a good question. One I am sure only the TK can answer. I am or only can guess on the symbolizm. It is looking like it may be something nlike you are thinking. That he is not only a SK but a pervert as well.

I am thinking you are right, that he may have been very close to his sister when it happened. I am talking Very Close to her like just as we have seen n-a-k-e-d and hugging her back. Now where she wanted it or not is the question. Maybe she started to object to thier communal bathing and he objected to her objection. Then Mom objected to heis objection and she jumped off the building, and Dad objected to her jumping and Arthur was the key element to all of the objections.. Just a guess.

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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1466. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 3:00 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 3:00 PM EST
"I don't know, never judge a book by its cover, Trinity was killing for 30 years, with only one person suspecting him,[Lundy] and when he got close, Trinity killed him and covered it up with a different serial killers M.O.
So far, Trinity is far more better than Dexter in everyway. And thats why Dexter hasn't killed him, yet. He knows that Trinity is better. Trinity blends in, he and his family are happy, and he has his "after hours" planned well.
Dexter is learning from Trinity, so hopefully one day, he can be as successful. "
I am sure his family is safe. After all they are his saving grace. He is normal around them Normal and an over achiever. If they were gone he would not be able to have his safety zone I think..
His family is safe as long as they do not know about his extra curricular activity.
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sbyerley
sbyerley
1467. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 5:35 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 5:35 PM EST
"I am sure his family is safe. After all they are his saving grace. He is normal around them Normal and an over achiever.

If they were gone he would not be able to have his safety zone I think..
"
So - question - is Trinity's family safe?

Here is the thing: When Arthur choked Dex, and Dex asked him - "What if your family saw you like this?" - Arthur said "They'd understand".

Why would they understand an outburst like that? He is a deacon - a volunteer for a non-profit - and a loving father.

Is that the picture of a guy with violent outbursts.

Notice too, that there are definite Rules in Arthurs' family life - no boots in the house, no idle hands, activities well scheduled.
No touching the ashes.

Sure we all have rules, but see what happens when someone breaks a rule - a violent outburst?

Is this outburst what Arthurs' family routinely expects from him when rules are broken?

Perhaps he told them the Truth? That he has Post-Tramatic Stress Syndrome and still suffers from the deaths of his entire family.

(BTW, how old is Arthur - his sister dies at age 16 in 1959 - if he is close to her age - he'd be 65ish ?)

Has Arthur abused or become violent with anyone in his second family?

Are they in danger in the future?

As Arthur corrected Dex's comment that he saved his family, "No, my family saved me."

Very definitely - their presence helps conceal his identity - they "understand" his past, and justify his outbursts & keep quiet out of pity/love.

Any more ideas on this?
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ElizabettaC
ElizabettaC
1468. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 7:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 7:33 PM EST
"lol! you are adorable too, this guy is playing the best scenes with that reporter "
There's a lot of real life chemistry between Desmond Harrington (Quinn) and Courtney Ford (the reporter chick).....
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1469. RE: predict season 4
Nov 6 2009, 7:47 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 7:47 PM EST
......As Arthur corrected Dex's comment that he saved his family, "No, my family saved me."......

This is why I think the / his family is safe. If he wants to go nutty again then he would not have his family to save him. I can only presume that he had gone nutty before. Maybe that is part of it, maybe he was in a Loonie Bin or Asylumn of some sort for his family's death's. When he got out he found his family ( I mean found his wife and started his family ).
The Deacon of the church etc wellllll I have seen the news re: the Priest that do thigs to young boys.... So I am not so sure a strait laced person is above it all. I know they are supossed to be the pilar of society, and be above scandal, but I think that in it's self can make them sort of Nutty, to have such high standards to live up to. Some can do it and some I think try and some are not so good at it.

Yes he does have some anger issues. But Dex was testing him, I think you mentioned that recently. Dex wanted to get a reaction out of him to see if what he was touching was important. It was !!!

So the cat and mouse game is now in Dexters handsto make the next move. But also the hammer that was given to Dexter was one of two things, It was
1- just to get rid of evidence. or
2-To plant evidence on Dexter,
( So He can call the cops and say he knows who had beaten that guy to death at the
office building.)
I think he was planting evidence, more than getting rid of it. I think he cleaned it / the hammer as well as he could and has used it since then, but there may be trace particles of blood on it.

I am not sure he has those outbursts at home, I think he is a pure as the new fallen snow to them. His sons eyes show that he has nothing but respect for his father. I wonder where the car came from though? If it was a trophy from an other murder?
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1470. RE: predict season 4
Nov 10 2009, 6:44 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2009, 6:44 PM EST
What is Harry doing this season?
It seems he is out for blood more than ever. He is the one that killed himself because of the Monster he created. But This season it is Kill him, Kill Him, Kill Him etc

It seems Harry is wanting to see blood on Every one of Dexters victims. It seems wierd that Harry is so ready to see the blood spilled.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
1471. RE: predict season 4
Nov 10 2009, 11:49 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2009, 11:49 PM EST
"What is Harry doing this season?
It seems he is out for blood more than ever. He is the one that killed himself because of the Monster he created. But This season it is Kill him, Kill Him, Kill Him etc

It seems Harry is wanting to see blood on Every one of Dexters victims. It seems wierd that Harry is so ready to see the blood spilled."
Harry's dead. Anything we see Harry do is all in Dexter's imagination. That's something I'm sort of not digging about the show lately. They're treating Dream Harry like a real character. I think they should stop doing that.
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
1472. RE: predict season 4
Nov 11 2009, 12:02 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 12:02 AM EST
"Harry's dead. Anything we see Harry do is all in Dexter's imagination. That's something I'm sort of not digging about the show lately. They're treating Dream Harry like a real character. I think they should stop doing that."
Agreed. I liked the flashback moments that showed how Dexter became Dexter. I really miss them and prefer them over guardian angel Harry.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1473. RE: predict season 4
Nov 11 2009, 12:08 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 12:08 AM EST
"Harry's dead. Anything we see Harry do is all in Dexter's imagination. That's something I'm sort of not digging about the show lately. They're treating Dream Harry like a real character. I think they should stop doing that."
I knew that You thought that I thought that Harry was alive....

But I knew that Harry was DEAD, and that it was an aberation of Harry. I am sure it is not even a ghost it is just an illution.

But you thought that I thought that I did not know this... WOW...

BUT I Knew that....
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
1474. RE: predict season 4
Nov 11 2009, 12:10 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 12:10 AM EST
"Agreed. I liked the flashback moments that showed how Dexter became Dexter. I really miss them and prefer them over guardian angel Harry. "
I think they are all sort of important. But it is making Harry look so blood thirsty this season.
I was better when he was the guide and the mentor rather than the coach.
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ElizabettaC
ElizabettaC
1475. RE: predict season 4
Nov 11 2009, 2:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 2:42 AM EST
"I think they are all sort of important. But it is making Harry look so blood thirsty this season.
I was better when he was the guide and the mentor rather than the coach."
I think the evolution of Harry over time is realistic because Dexter is so much a product of what Harry made him that he perceives all his impulses and thoughts as originating from Harry. It was helpful in the first seasons to see flashbacks of Harry so we understood more about Dexter, but now Harry is there as the one and only person who can see Dexter as he truly is and can give advise and opinions on daily life. Haven't you ever continued to have conversations in your head with someone who was very important to you but disappeared from your life years ago? Yeah, me neither, but I could see how someone might do that......
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
1476. RE: predict season 4
Nov 11 2009, 6:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 6:16 PM EST
"I think the evolution of Harry over time is realistic because Dexter is so much a product of what Harry made him that he perceives all his impulses and thoughts as originating from Harry. It was helpful in the first seasons to see flashbacks of Harry so we understood more about Dexter, but now Harry is there as the one and only person who can see Dexter as he truly is and can give advise and opinions on daily life. Haven't you ever continued to have conversations in your head with someone who was very important to you but disappeared from your life years ago? Yeah, me neither, but I could see how someone might do that......"
I think its just because Dexter is a crazy serial killer is why Harry is there. He's not real, just part of Dexter's imagination. So anything Harry tells Dexter to do, is Dexter thinking something out. [Like, whether to kill Trinity with an ax or not]....
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