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margovidas	84. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 4 2009, 5:51 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 4 2009, 5:51 PM EST "The more you look at it, the hinkier it gets. Harry "created" his code from supposition and theory? I am definitely picking up an experience vibe. He was not the "angel" that the Morgan children consider him to be. Dark passengers often use the same kinds of vessels because of their similar needs. I see Dex getting into a more adversarial role with his "co-pilot" and seeing if he can break free from the ties that bind...and gag...;-)" Good point: Never thought about Harry's darker side. How did Harry come up with his "Code?" Harry was a cop and around many devious criminals. Definitely this exposure gave him excellent insight into the criminal mind. How Harry surmised that Dexter had serial killer tendencies, we really don't know. When does a child's conscience form? What was Dexter doing as a young child to make Harry suspicious re Dex and serial killing. Any ideas? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sueezedtight	85. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 4 2009, 7:32 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 4 2009, 7:32 PM EST The more you look at it, the more it looks like Harry might have been the senior "Bay Harbor Butcher" and he passed his lessons down to his "son". He had all the antecedants.....Deb might even look into old SK activities once she gets on the case. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jwnelson11	86. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 1:12 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 1:12 AM EST "The more you look at it, the hinkier it gets. Harry "created" his code from supposition and theory? I am definitely picking up an experience vibe. He was not the "angel" that the Morgan children consider him to be. Dark passengers often use the same kinds of vessels because of their similar needs. I see Dex getting into a more adversarial role with his "co-pilot" and seeing if he can break free from the ties that bind...and gag...;-)" Harry Loved his kids a lot. Harry saw that Dex had a problem, and a good father will help his kids any way he can to protect them and save them even from them selves. Harry, in my mind had nothing but altruist reasons to help Dexter. Harry being a cop knew what would be out there if Dexter was unleashed with out a purpose or a couse. So harry saw an opportunity to help his world of Law and Order by siccing a serial killer on the dirt bags that went unpunished. In Harry's mind ( I think any way) That he was doing a good thing. He was punishing those that needed punishment that went and worke out side the Law, and Had Dexter punish them as they should be punished. So Dexter had an outlet for his secret desires. I think harry thought he had a win/win situation. As a bonus he was saving the Tax Payers all of that money by not tying up the courts and jails, and just going to punishment for those that needed it. I have strayed sorry, How will all of this apply to season 4?? The Predictions are I dunno, I will think on some ..... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sueezedtight	87. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 7:24 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 7:24 AM EST Well, as "surreal" as your analysis suggests Harry's altruism was, it is quite a bit more likely than my speculation......Harry did throw-up when he saw Dex's first opus. Hardly the reaction of a seasoned SK.......;-) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CKrelax	88. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 9:15 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 9:15 AM EST "The more you look at it, the hinkier it gets. Harry "created" his code from supposition and theory? I am definitely picking up an experience vibe. He was not the "angel" that the Morgan children consider him to be. Dark passengers often use the same kinds of vessels because of their similar needs. I see Dex getting into a more adversarial role with his "co-pilot" and seeing if he can break free from the ties that bind...and gag...;-)" Thank you! I have said that all along. Glad to see someone else recognizes the issue. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CKrelax	89. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 9:16 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 9:16 AM EST "Well, as "surreal" as your analysis suggests Harry's altruism was, it is quite a bit more likely than my speculation......Harry did throw-up when he saw Dex's first opus. Hardly the reaction of a seasoned SK.......;-)" Well, maybe he had just eaten eggs Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sueezedtight	90. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 9:58 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 9:58 AM EST "Well, maybe he had just eaten eggs " Or maybe he too was battling with his "incarnate entity" and seeing the physical manifestation was just too much to deal with....Like I said, this show has a lot of layers and we are just scratching the surface. The deep psychological underpinnings go into uncharted territory. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sueezedtight	92. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 11:42 AM EST We are all subject to the influence of our darker aspects. As we know, they lead down a path that is easy to embark upon due to its downhill nature but hard to recover from the hole that they put you in.... Dex fascinates us so due to his ability to seemingly succumb to the temptation (As Oscar Wilde once said..."The only way to resist temptation is to yield to it!") and then put himself back on track and not suffer the consequences. The key is to make use of the negative polarity and then to balance it out with the positive. No net change but a big and useful effect. Skirting the laws (oops, more like ignoring or trashing them) is not to be encouraged but then, you are what you know. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
CKrelax	93. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 12:00 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 5:55 PM EST I think it is the ambiguous way the show skates around certain issues, that intrigues us all so much. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jwnelson11	94. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 5 2009, 7:11 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 5 2009, 7:11 PM EST Harry was no Serial Killer. He had NO Idea what a Serial Killer really was when he was developing the code. If he had those tendancies he would have been there for the kill, as that is what it is all about. The cutting and disposing is just house work or cleaning up. If HArry was a Serial Killer he would want to be there when the lights/life went out of the victims eyes. This is the whole thing, the control the feeling they have when they are causing this catastropy. Harry did not have a clue what he had done until e witnessed the rmains of the kil Dexter brought The Trophy. harry did not want to have a thing to do with that. This is when Harry ealized what he had done. What he had created. Harry could not face tat any more. If he really did take an over dose ths is why. He was devistated at what he had done, or what Dexter was really like. No Harry was not a Sociopath nor a Serial Killer. Unless you realize that he loved Cheerios. Then He was a Cereal Killer... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	97. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 6 2009, 3:05 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2009, 3:05 PM EST Perhaps they will delve more into Harry's background in season 4. Harry still seems to be an integral part of the show. Although Dex seems to have made peace with Harry's teachings, I think more will be revealed as Deb starts going into his background. Harry was a cop. He saw the dark side of everything everyday. I'm sure that if they could, every police dept. would hire someone like Dexter on the side without anyone knowing about it. I'm sure they are more sick than anyone about seeing people get away with horrid crimes due to our legal system. Remember the episode that Angel said "if I found the person that did this, I would shake his hand?" I think (and this is only speculation) that Brian was already mentally unstable as a child even before his mother's killing. Harry was involved with Laura, so obviously he would know. He may have also thought that Dexter was his own child at the time. He knew that he wasn't later on, but may not have known until later on. (the Dex needing a transfusion episode.) Harry suspected about Dexter when Dex started killing animals. I think with much thought & trepidation, he decided to turn that dark side in Dexter into something more...productive in nature. Has anyone thought that maybe Deb isn't Harry's real child? We barely know anything about her mother. That thought just came to me. Anyone care to elaborate on that subject? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jwnelson11	98. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 6 2009, 5:10 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2009, 5:10 PM EST "Perhaps they will delve more into Harry's background in season 4. Harry still seems to be an integral part of the show. Although Dex seems to have made peace with Harry's teachings, I think more will be revealed as Deb starts going into his background. Harry was a cop. He saw the dark side of everything everyday. I'm sure that if they could, every police dept. would hire someone like Dexter on the side without anyone knowing about it. I'm sure they are more sick than anyone about seeing people get away with horrid crimes due to our legal system. Remember the episode that Angel said "if I found the person that did this, I would shake his hand?" I think (and this is only speculation) that Brian was already mentally unstable as a child even before his mother's killing. Harry was involved with Laura, so obviously he would know. He may have also thought that Dexter was his own child at the time. He knew that he wasn't later on, but may not have known until later on. (the Dex needing a transfusion episode.) Harry suspected about Dexter when Dex started killing animals. I think with much thought & trepidation, he decided to turn that dark side in Dexter into something more...productive in nature. Has anyone thought that maybe Deb isn't Harry's real child? We barely know anything about her mother. That thought just came to me. Anyone care to elaborate on that subject?" Yes, I have wondered if Deb was not Harry's... But the mom (Harry's wife) was so strange I am not sure she would have done it with anyone else. (or for that matter maybe she would not have done it with Harry??) So there has always beena big question mark in my mind about that. Deb's problems personality her likes and dislikes would be nice to kinwo about. I do hope that she will be explored more at some time in the future. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
CKrelax	99. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 6 2009, 7:51 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2009, 7:52 PM EST "Perhaps they will delve more into Harry's background in season 4. Harry still seems to be an integral part of the show. Although Dex seems to have made peace with Harry's teachings, I think more will be revealed as Deb starts going into his background. Harry was a cop. He saw the dark side of everything everyday. I'm sure that if they could, every police dept. would hire someone like Dexter on the side without anyone knowing about it. I'm sure they are more sick than anyone about seeing people get away with horrid crimes due to our legal system. Remember the episode that Angel said "if I found the person that did this, I would shake his hand?" I think (and this is only speculation) that Brian was already mentally unstable as a child even before his mother's killing. Harry was involved with Laura, so obviously he would know. He may have also thought that Dexter was his own child at the time. He knew that he wasn't later on, but may not have known until later on. (the Dex needing a transfusion episode.) Harry suspected about Dexter when Dex started killing animals. I think with much thought & trepidation, he decided to turn that dark side in Dexter into something more...productive in nature. Has anyone thought that maybe Deb isn't Harry's real child? We barely know anything about her mother. That thought just came to me. Anyone care to elaborate on that subject?" I think the questions raised about Harry having been loyal is not to play family tree for the Morgans, but instead, to further instill the lack of trust Deb has with men. That is my take on it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DebMorgansSweet	100. RE: Predict Season 4 : frist & second book spoiler Mar 6 2009, 9:28 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2009, 9:28 PM EST I wish they keep Brain alive like in the book, it would make the 4th season great but the creators had to kill him off I also want LaGueta (<-did i spell that right?) to die , and doakes to live like in the second book even if he is less of a person Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	101. RE: Predict Season 4 : frist & second book spoiler Mar 6 2009, 10:22 PM EST "I wish they keep Brain alive like in the book, it would make the 4th season great but the creators had to kill him off I also want LaGueta (<-did i spell that right?) to die , and doakes to live like in the second book even if he is less of a person" First of all, the books are far removed from the series. But, I wish that Doakes would have stayed alive, too. A lot of people hated him & he was kind of an ass, but he was very astute and played well off of the Dexter character. I think they couldn't keep him alive because he was onto Dex, and, well, that would be the end of the series now wouldn't it? It would have been fun to see what would have happened had Brian stayed alive but disappeared. LaGuerta doesn't bother me one way or another. I would like to see Lundy back. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
CKrelax	102. RE: Predict Season 4 : frist & second book spoiler Mar 7 2009, 8:58 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 7 2009, 8:58 AM EST "I wish they keep Brain alive like in the book, it would make the 4th season great but the creators had to kill him off I also want LaGueta (<-did i spell that right?) to die , and doakes to live like in the second book even if he is less of a person" I liked Doakes, too. He was a wonderfukl advisary until the end when he lost control. It was his skill as an officer, and, his intelligence that made him play off Dex and his mild mannered yet secret identity as equals. He was a hunk, too. But, when he got emotionally played so much at the end, he turned too pussy. Had the writers not killed him, the next season could have used the carribean connection that I feel wasn't played out as it could have been. But, it appears, each season is a themed short form novel come to life. It may not be true to the original writings, but, each season is like reading a Dick Francis novel, short, exciting, and comes to conclusion. But, they are all about the horse racing industry. Hey, are any of you watchig Showtimes other hot series THE UNITED STATES OF TARA? I love it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Multiple44	103. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 7 2009, 11:36 AM EST "(Book spoiler alert) Dexter will discover Astor and Cody may have a Dark Passenger. I'm guessing as this happens is the third book, Dexter in the dark." I don't think Showtime will actually proceed with this storyline. It can get very tricky, I think. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jwnelson11	104. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 7 2009, 11:56 AM EST "I don't think Showtime will actually proceed with this storyline. It can get very tricky, I think. " Why does everyone HAVE to be a serial Killer? I do not understand this. There is no predisposistion to have them become SK's. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mike91848	105. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 7 2009, 12:13 PM EST "Why does everyone HAVE to be a serial Killer? I do not understand this. There is no predisposistion to have them become SK's. " Showtime's Dexter gives no sign at all that Astor and Cody have a dark side. Maybe in S4 there could be something with Rita's first husband and her having a child that has a dark side but not Astor and Cody. If anything I could see Astor or Cody getting very upset at someone if they picked on Rita in front of them to the point of striking out but not being serial killers. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mike91848	106. RE: Predict Season 4 (Book spoiler alert) Mar 7 2009, 12:22 PM EST "Perhaps they will delve more into Harry's background in season 4. Harry still seems to be an integral part of the show. Although Dex seems to have made peace with Harry's teachings, I think more will be revealed as Deb starts going into his background. Harry was a cop. He saw the dark side of everything everyday. I'm sure that if they could, every police dept. would hire someone like Dexter on the side without anyone knowing about it. I'm sure they are more sick than anyone about seeing people get away with horrid crimes due to our legal system. Remember the episode that Angel said "if I found the person that did this, I would shake his hand?" I think (and this is only speculation) that Brian was already mentally unstable as a child even before his mother's killing. Harry was involved with Laura, so obviously he would know. He may have also thought that Dexter was his own child at the time. He knew that he wasn't later on, but may not have known until later on. (the Dex needing a transfusion episode.) Harry suspected about Dexter when Dex started killing animals. I think with much thought & trepidation, he decided to turn that dark side in Dexter into something more...productive in nature. Has anyone thought that maybe Deb isn't Harry's real child? We barely know anything about her mother. That thought just came to me. Anyone care to elaborate on that subject?" I don't think Harry was a serial killer. I hope season 4 gets into Harry's background more too! Harry's CI folders sitting on Deb's desk will lead into Harry's as well as Dexter's background. I think Harry's background as a cop and Dexter's actions as a child led Harry to teach Dexter the code. Harry loved Dexter and I'm sure felt responsible for how Dexter turned out; he knew what had happened! I still think Harry was flawed as a man but was not a serial killer. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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