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Dexter's_Spawn
60. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 9 2009, 5:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2009, 5:16 PM EDT
Well, it was just an idea. I'm sure my opinions aren't created from scientific fact, but the characters show patterns.

Example, Deb when she is talking to Dexter about the Bay Harbor Butcher, "Give me a chance and I'll put a bullet through his fuckin' head."

I know about the books, been a fan of them for quite some time. I even took the time to duplicate them on my PC. I own the originals, don't worry.

As for Rita, her being quite calculated is perfect for it. She would be a perfect match for Dexter. The two are (Like the formula says, "Close to one another") the two have pasts that would make a normal person snap and go on a killing spree. Yet they lay dormant and strike when needed. It would explain WHY Rita was crying for the guy who tried to rape her, then steal her kids from her. He also has physically beat her in the past.

So, Rita would fit as a closet sociopath. She's also not a police officer.

I agree that Gail, Rita's mother could be one. She's always trying to appear proper, she's controlling and she's always trying to make herself out as the victim. She too fits. But, that would be too predictable. Maybe she could just kidnap Aster and/or Cody to force them to learn her way, and Dexter must slay the beast in her, so to speak.

I just want her gone. She's an annoying character.

As for Batista, he could be a serial killer, but I wouldn't like that much. Then again, every member of the cast could be one, when you examine them.

Vince Masuka, he's usually quiet, but when he speaks it's always perverse, kind of like the guy who was stealing copper pipe. He could be a rapist. That type of scene with vice could provide some comic relief. Picture masuka trying to take down a 6 foot tall woman. OH, the scene would be an instant classic.

Out of space.
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Dexter's_Spawn
61. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 9 2009, 5:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2009, 5:29 PM EDT
Batista is always trying to help others, as if he's trying to stay on everyone's good side. As if he has something to hide.

Batista's girlfriend is a cop, but the whole moonlighting as a hooker while undercover would provide her with access to people with their guard down. Not to mention why she settled for Angel, she refuses to go out with him and then all of a sudden gives in?

Debra feels as if she's been neglected. Why else would she be snooping around to find this mysterious lover? Why would she have acted like that as a child? Trying to get more of Harry's time. She tried to act like a boy as she must've thought that's what Harry wanted.

La Guerta has lost her best friend to a previous lover who became a killer. Then, he was killed, and now she must drive through a street named after that killer until it's renamed.

The guy who is Maria's boss, (forgot his name) he is always trying to control Maria, as if he's trying to hide some alternative motive. Maybe I'm just over suspicious.

Astor still could be his successor. She shows signs of breaking away from humanity. Not to mention sudden outbursts of anger.

They've already toyed with the notion of a successor to Dexter, in the scene where Dexter sees his new son, and he (The new son) kills the kids (Astor and Cody).

Masuka's new girlfriend, could be a killer. She's a bachelor party planner. So, she knows how to get women or men quickly. She is also good at planning, and is now with a forensics investigator.

Syl could be a killer, her husband is neglecting her. She must deal with her son and daughter all by herself while her husband does what he does. She could snap quite easily.

Ramon could be a killer. Kidnapping, and trying to keep your brother's record clean with no care about your own. Surprised he became a cop.
It could be anyone.
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Estella70131
62. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 12:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 12:05 AM EDT
Yes. John Lithgow is this year's serial killer. They reported bringing back Lundy, but I don't know if filming started. I doubt they'll get Carradine now if he hasn't started filming. I'm pretty sure Miami can support numerous serial killers, but if he takes a road trip, I'd suggest Laredo, by way of New Orleans. Do you find this valuable?    

Dexter's_Spawn
63. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 4:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 4:20 AM EDT
I couldn't by him (John Lithgow) as a killer. Pedophile, maybe. Killer, NO.

He looks like the guy who'd kidnap Astor and try to have a "little" fun, maybe kill her afterward. He'd cry while doing it too. Kind of like "I'm sorry, but this is how life works" kind of thing.
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
64. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM EDT
"I couldn't by him (John Lithgow) as a killer. Pedophile, maybe. Killer, NO.

He looks like the guy who'd kidnap Astor and try to have a "little" fun, maybe kill her afterward. He'd cry while doing it too. Kind of like "I'm sorry, but this is how life works" kind of thing."
I understand what your saying, and I agree. But if Lithgow can pull the serial killer part off, kudos to him.
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margovidas
margovidas
65. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 1:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 1:23 PM EDT
"Yes. John Lithgow is this year's serial killer. They reported bringing back Lundy, but I don't know if filming started. I doubt they'll get Carradine now if he hasn't started filming. I'm pretty sure Miami can support numerous serial killers, but if he takes a road trip, I'd suggest Laredo, by way of New Orleans. "
Love the idea that John Lithgow will be this year's serial killer. Heard through our "Dexter" grapevine that he will be mild-mannered as Clark Kent but a bona fide serial killer. Hope Lundy comes back to help. Deb needs a stable relationship lover and Lundy is the man. Looking forward to this season!!! Yeah!!!
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
66. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 2:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 2:04 PM EDT
"Love the idea that John Lithgow will be this year's serial killer. Heard through our "Dexter" grapevine that he will be mild-mannered as Clark Kent but a bona fide serial killer. Hope Lundy comes back to help. Deb needs a stable relationship lover and Lundy is the man. Looking forward to this season!!! Yeah!!!"
Doesn't she still go out with some black guy?
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Dexter's_Spawn
67. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 8:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 8:21 PM EDT
Yes, she's going out with Anton. The only one to survive a skinning from "The Skinner" besides Dexter.

Lundy does come back.

Lithgow's character has an odd MO.
He kills in three's and is dubbed "The Trinity Killer". He moves to Miami after his previous residence gets overrun by the F.B.I. That's where Lundy comes in.

Obviously, Dexter wonders how he was able to continue on for over 30 years without being caught.

Looks like we'll see more of Deb freaking out over who to choose, and possibly she'll have a breakdown, in which Dexter will help her.

Honestly, I know Lithgow can pull off mild-mannered well. But can he really act like a sociopath?
I sure hope he can pull it off, or we'll have one odd season.

For those wondering, it starts September 27th, 2009.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
68. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 9:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 9:25 PM EDT
"I understand what your saying, and I agree. But if Lithgow can pull the serial killer part off, kudos to him."
I can see him be very sinister. He did some part in the late 70's and early 80's where he was very very bad . Then he started doing comedy and people did not or do not take him serious as a bad guy. But he can play a very bad person. I have to go and find the movies he was in. I donot rememeber them now.

I can see him as a very bad person and very capable of killing. I could not see Smits as one last season but it was done. So do not count anything out.
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Estella70131
69. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 10:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 10:38 PM EDT
I think I'm way older than everyone else here, because Lithgow-he can't miss. The World According to Garp was Glenn Close's first film and Robin Williams was Mork. Lithgow was a convincing woman! I argued with my dad "she's ugly, but it doesn't make her a boy." Then I found out what a tranny is. I remember the movie jwnelson's talking about. Split personality. I'm sure he's not proud. I'm interested in Deb and Lundy, and I'd bet Anton is history. She had that daddy complex an was way too freaked out about kind bud in the Fruity Pebbles. She acted like it was illegal or something. Do you find this valuable?    
dexlvr3
dexlvr3
70. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 10:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 10:40 PM EDT
"I think I'm way older than everyone else here, because Lithgow-he can't miss. The World According to Garp was Glenn Close's first film and Robin Williams was Mork. Lithgow was a convincing woman! I argued with my dad "she's ugly, but it doesn't make her a boy." Then I found out what a tranny is. I remember the movie jwnelson's talking about. Split personality. I'm sure he's not proud. I'm interested in Deb and Lundy, and I'd bet Anton is history. She had that daddy complex an was way too freaked out about kind bud in the Fruity Pebbles. She acted like it was illegal or something."
The movie was Raising Caine. He made a good psycho.
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danyo1982
danyo1982
71. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 10:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 10:56 PM EDT
"The movie was Raising Caine. He made a good psycho."
John Lithgow is going to be perfect. I originally suggested a slightly younger killer. But I like the direction they are heading with casting Lithgow. Dexter is a show that has a degree of comedy and you know he can pull that off. Plus we all know from Raising Cain that he has a special psycho element to him that allot of actors can't portray on screen. I'm very excited to see Lundie back and feel that he also has that comedic quality about him too. With lithgow's character being named the Trinity Killer and knowing that he is supposed to illuminate part of Dexter's life that we are probably going to see him kidnap or threaten three of Dexter's close peeps. Probably his kids(now that there are three) and Dex will have to save them. Then it could make more sense of all the claims that Cody begins to show signs of having the same mentality of Dex himself. That can all be a result of what Cody witnesses under the care of Lithgow's trinity killer when he kidnaps them. Alright now that's how it should be done so lets get it done. All Hail Dexter.
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
72. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 10 2009, 11:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2009, 11:07 PM EDT
"John Lithgow is going to be perfect. I originally suggested a slightly younger killer. But I like the direction they are heading with casting Lithgow. Dexter is a show that has a degree of comedy and you know he can pull that off. Plus we all know from Raising Cain that he has a special psycho element to him that allot of actors can't portray on screen. I'm very excited to see Lundie back and feel that he also has that comedic quality about him too. With lithgow's character being named the Trinity Killer and knowing that he is supposed to illuminate part of Dexter's life that we are probably going to see him kidnap or threaten three of Dexter's close peeps. Probably his kids(now that there are three) and Dex will have to save them. Then it could make more sense of all the claims that Cody begins to show signs of having the same mentality of Dex himself. That can all be a result of what Cody witnesses under the care of Lithgow's trinity killer when he kidnaps them. Alright now that's how it should be done so lets get it done. All Hail Dexter."
Yeah, I actually liked Lundy on the show. But you know this is probably gonna mix up Debs feelings between Anton and Lundy.
More drama :D
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danyo1982
danyo1982
73. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 12:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 12:36 AM EDT
"Yeah, I actually liked Lundy on the show. But you know this is probably gonna mix up Debs feelings between Anton and Lundy.
More drama :D"
I would say that who Deb dates is the thing I care about the least. You always know for a fact every season that someone is going to nail her. The better part about her dating Lundy is that when she gets closer to Dexters secret, Lundy will be there for her to confy in. Not a good thing for a serial killer(being that she will be speaking to an FBI agent). Also Lundy has already shown that he is a by the book agent but he seems to not have a problem doing backround checks on anyone(which might give her what she needs to peace together the info she needs). But that other dude wasn't such a great addition to the show and I don't really see the need to keep his character. Either way, one suiter needs to go.
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jwnelson11
jwnelson11
74. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 12:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 12:18 PM EDT
"I would say that who Deb dates is the thing I care about the least. You always know for a fact every season that someone is going to nail her. The better part about her dating Lundy is that when she gets closer to Dexters secret, Lundy will be there for her to confy in. Not a good thing for a serial killer(being that she will be speaking to an FBI agent). Also Lundy has already shown that he is a by the book agent but he seems to not have a problem doing backround checks on anyone(which might give her what she needs to peace together the info she needs). But that other dude wasn't such a great addition to the show and I don't really see the need to keep his character. Either way, one suiter needs to go."
I agree Debs sex life is just drama. It does add something to the story, But if was gone it would not be missed or it would be easily be replaced by some other drama. I think we all can figure out that Anton would be short lived anyway with his 'Evil Ways', the Pot will always be a probelm with Deb, as it could always be there to put her job at risk. We know how much she wants to be a cop in good standing. Being a cop is what she is, as well as easy.........
Lundy coming back will bring her back or I should say pull her away from Anton. I like Anton, and I think he did add something to her or could have by giving her some bad girl character. But she wants to be the bestest cop. She is Harry's daughter.
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clairebbbear
clairebbbear
75. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 7:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 7:26 PM EDT
I hope the writers are not going to turn the Lundy thing into a love triangle. That would kind of suck.

Though it would be fine if Lundy's arrival affects Deb's feelings for Anton, as I think it might.

I don't think that Deb would be all over Lundy again, or want to get back together with him - she was a different person when she was with him; she is much stronger and happier now, and doesn't need him any more. But I think having him around again would bring it home to her how totally wrong Anton is for her, so she'd split up with him.

Then again, she'd also realise that Lundy isn't right for her either, because she needs someone with more of a spark (cue: younger). And, I don't think he was ever as into her as she was to him.

And maybe she'd actually - finally - realse that she can be completely independent without the need for a boyfriend or even a supportive brother. The latter realisation I think she'll come to at the same time as she's investigating Dexter's background.
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
76. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 8:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 8:24 PM EDT
"I hope the writers are not going to turn the Lundy thing into a love triangle. That would kind of suck.

Though it would be fine if Lundy's arrival affects Deb's feelings for Anton, as I think it might.

I don't think that Deb would be all over Lundy again, or want to get back together with him - she was a different person when she was with him; she is much stronger and happier now, and doesn't need him any more. But I think having him around again would bring it home to her how totally wrong Anton is for her, so she'd split up with him.

Then again, she'd also realise that Lundy isn't right for her either, because she needs someone with more of a spark (cue: younger). And, I don't think he was ever as into her as she was to him.

And maybe she'd actually - finally - realse that she can be completely independent without the need for a boyfriend or even a supportive brother. The latter realisation I think she'll come to at the same time as she's investigating Dexter's background. "
In the books, Deb finds out but doesn't turn him in. I think the same thing is probably gonna happen, or Deb will never talk to Dex again. But Deb is one of the main supporting actors, so I don't think she will just flee Miami.
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CKrelax
CKrelax
77. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 8:28 PM EDT
"In the books, Deb finds out but doesn't turn him in. I think the same thing is probably gonna happen, or Deb will never talk to Dex again. But Deb is one of the main supporting actors, so I don't think she will just flee Miami."
Deb is Harry's daughter. She will be sympathetic.

I hope there isn't a lot surrounding Deb searching through files discovering herself through her fathers faults. Maybe Deb will date Lithgow. Wait, she already dated a serial killer on the show. lol I have a feeling the two tall boys facing off are going to resemble two wild beast fighting for terrritory. Magnificent to watch! Dexter will scurry around their feet un noticed and with his own agenda.
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Dr.Toejam
Dr.Toejam
78. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 9:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 9:04 PM EDT
"Deb is Harry's daughter. She will be sympathetic.

I hope there isn't a lot surrounding Deb searching through files discovering herself through her fathers faults. Maybe Deb will date Lithgow. Wait, she already dated a serial killer on the show. lol I have a feeling the two tall boys facing off are going to resemble two wild beast fighting for terrritory. Magnificent to watch! Dexter will scurry around their feet un noticed and with his own agenda."
Being Harrys daughter has nothing to do with it. Dexter is her brother, and she loves Dexter as a brother.
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ZizzyB23
ZizzyB23
79. RE: Do you think they're going to create a new serial killer for Seaso
Jun 11 2009, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2009, 9:10 PM EDT
"Maybe Deb will date Lithgow. Wait, she already dated a serial killer on the show."
And she already dated an old guy. This show just can't win can it?
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