Discussion: Why is Debra such a Ho?

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DrkPassenger	Does good time girl Debra's heart belong to Daddy? Aug 3 2009, 10:29 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 14 2009, 1:24 PM EDT Give me a break, Lundy as a boyfriend? He must be at least 60, whereas Debra is what, 25? Is there anyone she won't sleep with? She has slept with a serial killer, a drug addict, a police informant, after that I lose count. I bet she has done the entire precinct. Post reply 2 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
clairebbbear	1. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 3 2009, 11:17 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 3 2009, 11:18 PM EDT sighs After your previous intelligent posts, I had expected more of you than resorting to cheap insults. So in the series she's slept with like, 5 guys in 3 seasons? And that makes her a "ho"??? At least she didn't attempt to pick up a hooker, unlike Angel. At least in each of the cases she was actually looking for someone to love her and look after her, not just casual sex (again, unlike Angel). Every guy she's been with - except possibly Gabe, the gym guy, because she never really gave him a chance - she's jumped in head-over-heels emotional thinking he's the one. As for Lundy, it was totally understandable she went for him. Lots of women go for father figures. And when you consider that Deb had little love from her own father and was still traumatised about nearly being killed by a serial killer, what could be more attractive than a guy who can look after her and protect her from serial killers? Plus - Keith Carradine is hot for his age. I'd do him. Post reply 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DrkPassenger	2. RE: Does good time girl Debra's heart belong to Daddy? Aug 4 2009, 8:54 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 14 2009, 1:26 PM EDT Lundy, seriously? That's just creepy, even for the Dark Passenger, and believe me, he knows creepy. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
zahmerica	3. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 5 2009, 9:53 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 5 2009, 9:53 PM EDT I'd say Deb is mostly sexually inactive if anything... especially for Showtime's standards. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
dexlvr3	4. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 7 2009, 4:48 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 7 2009, 4:48 PM EDT If it was any of the guys on the cast it would probably be said that they weren't getting enough action! Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DrkPassenger	5. RE: Does good time girl Debra's heart belong to Daddy? Aug 13 2009, 3:23 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 14 2009, 1:28 PM EDT "If it was any of the guys on the cast it would probably be said that they weren't getting enough action! " This is true, but then different standards of sexual morality apply to men and to women, do they not? Deb certainly has an active libido and has much to offer. So young, supple, soft, attractive, nice hair, one can imagine a nice smell, and she puts out on the first date. I bet she could teach me a thing or two, and I would be grateful for the lessons and doubtless come back for more. In fact, I would probably sign up for the 2-semester class! But this still begs the question. Is Debra such a free spirit that she is completely casual about whom she sleeps with, or is she looking for affection? Does she have no standards of age compatibility, comparable good looks, professional employment, college educated. and so on? If she is primarily responsive to sexual passion, then those best equipped to offer her fulfillment would be her choice irrespective of age or any other factor. Post reply 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
clairebbbear	6. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 8:56 PM EDT "This is true, but then different standards of sexual morality apply to men and to women, do they not?" Yes, but they shouldn't. This isn't 1953 any more. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
dexlvr3	7. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 9:28 PM EDT "Yes, but they shouldn't. This isn't 1953 any more." I'm giving you a standing ovation right now!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
wysteria	8. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 9:29 PM EDT "This is true, but then different standards of sexual morality apply to men and to women, do they not? Deb certainly has an active libido and has much to offer. So young, supple, soft, attractive, nice hair, one an imagine a nice smell, and she puts out on the first date. I bet she could teach me a thing or two, and I would be grateful for the lessons and doubtless come back for more. In fact, I would probably sign up for the 2-semester class! But this still begs the question. Is Debra such a free spirit that she is completely casual about whom she sleeps with, or is she looking for affection? Does she have no standards of age compatibility, comparable good looks, professional employment, college educated. and so on? If she is primarily responsive to sexual passion, then those best equipped to offer her fulfillment would be her choice irrespective of age or any other factor. So please allow me to rephrase the question. 'Ho' was not meant in a derogatory, descriptive way. Obviously Debra has a real job as a cop and does not accept money for sexual favors. I merely meant that she walks on the wild side. She is 'slutty' in a nice way which appeals to men. What I am wondering is whether she is looking for a father figure or is she just a nympho and can't help herself?" Deb is anything BUT a free spirit. She an escapist. That old saying about promiscuous women having sex, using sex, to get love? It's true. she's looking for a lover and a father. We all are. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
clairebbbear	9. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 9:42 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 13 2009, 9:44 PM EDT "Is Debra such a free spirit that she is completely casual about whom she sleeps with, or is she looking for affection? " She's not a nympho or "completely casual about whom she sleps with". Do we see her trawling bars looking for casual sex? No. In fact, she doesn't even engage in casual sex. The only semi-casual sex she's had was with Gabe, where she took him home (and handcuffed him to Dexter's bed) the second time she met him. And even that I saw as an attempt to reach out to someone who seemed like he was trying to help her. Deb doesn't have sex for the sake of it but for the purpose of recieving affection and love. Every time she's with someone she's thinking long-term and that he's "the one", even if he's obviously not. Guy in season 1 - she was really excited for Dexter to meet him & obviously thought they had a future together, but then it turned out he was married. Rudy - Got to know him at the hospital, he obviously did all the right things to impress her - even he said that she was so desperate for love that she couldn't see who he was. Lundy - obvious father figure, good looking for his age, confident, capable. Also didn't sleep with him for a long time, until there was definitely a rapport there. Anton - didn't sleep with him for a long time even though the sparks were obviously there. Her dating him was a good sign that she was strong enough to look for a partner who wasn't necessarily the "protecting" type and that she also had a good friendship with. Probably her healthiest relationship so far, even though they are very different. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
clairebbbear	10. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 9:55 PM EDT "Does she have no standards of age compatibility, comparable good looks, professional employment, college educated. and so on? If she is primarily responsive to sexual passion, then those best equipped to offer her fulfillment would be her choice irrespective of age or any other factor." So basically you're saying that, because she's been in relationships with a bunch of men who are very different from each other, she must have no standards and only be interested in them for sexual purposes = "a ho"? Um, right... Sure, some women have very specific ideas - even a list sometimes - about what they want in a man and date the same type over and over, but many don't. From what we've seen so far, Deb does have standards. These are - that she is attracted to a guy (and yes, she was attracted to Lundy even if you can't get your head around that), that they have a good rapport, that he respects her and that he is capable of showing affection towards her. She's also showed signs that having a guy who was capable and confident (either because he's a prosthetist or an FBI guru or a gym expert) is attractive. When she was debating about whether to stay with Anton she admitted she was looking for someone dependable and strong. (And Anton is both those things, just not in traditional ways). Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
clairebbbear	11. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 13 2009, 9:58 PM EDT "So please allow me to rephrase the question. 'Ho' was not meant in a derogatory, descriptive way. " So there is a meaning for "ho" that is not derogatory? Tell you what - why don't you go and call your sister or your mother that now - or a random woman on the street - and tell me whether they think it's derogatory or not? And if it's not descriptive, why were you using it? Because you liked how the letters looked on the screen? Because you prefer two-letter words? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DrkPassenger	12. RE: Does good time girl Debra's heart belong to Daddy? Aug 14 2009, 11:32 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 14 2009, 1:27 PM EDT "It's true. she's looking for a lover and a father. We all are." But not in the same person, I hope! Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DrkPassenger	13. RE: Does good time girl Debra's heart belong to Daddy? Aug 14 2009, 11:34 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 14 2009, 1:27 PM EDT "So there is a meaning for "ho" that is not derogatory? Tell you what - why don't you go and call your sister or your mother that now - or a random woman on the street - and tell me whether they think it's derogatory or not? And if it's not descriptive, why were you using it? Because you liked how the letters looked on the screen? Because you prefer two-letter words?" I have edited my posts to remove any such language. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
DrkPassenger	14. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 14 2009, 1:29 PM EDT "Yes, but they shouldn't. This isn't 1953 any more." It is for Lundy! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Montacore	15. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 18 2009, 11:23 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 11:27 AM EDT "sighs After your previous intelligent posts, I had expected more of you than resorting to cheap insults. So in the series she's slept with like, 5 guys in 3 seasons? And that makes her a "ho"??? At least she didn't attempt to pick up a hooker, unlike Angel. At least in each of the cases she was actually looking for someone to love her and look after her, not just casual sex (again, unlike Angel). Every guy she's been with - except possibly Gabe, the gym guy, because she never really gave him a chance - she's jumped in head-over-heels emotional thinking he's the one. As for Lundy, it was totally understandable she went for him. Lots of women go for father figures. And when you consider that Deb had little love from her own father and was still traumatised about nearly being killed by a serial killer, what could be more attractive than a guy who can look after her and protect her from serial killers? Plus - Keith Carradine is hot for his age. I'd do him. " Yes Keith Carradine is great looking for his age. The sad thing no matter how much we evolve guys who sleep around will be praised, and girls who do the same will be labled a slut. But don't dump on Angel, he is my Latin Teddy Bear! The problem with Deb has that in order to feel good alright about sleeping with a man, she tells herself she is 'in love.' Then when the guy is out the picture, she is on the prowl again. That is what makes her a ho in my book. I mean come on, Lundy is gone for a couple of months and she jumps in bed with that dumpy looking police informant? Why doesn't she just buy a lubricated vibrator? And they weren't cheap insults, they were facts. What I want to know is Deb has no shape and she isn't that good looking. So why are guys like Gabe and Lundy even attracted to her? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	16. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 18 2009, 2:08 PM EDT I agree with clairebbbear. There should NOT be a double standard, and most likely it was started by men. I wonder what would happen if that double standard was actually put into effect. Then they wouldn't have any women to have sex with. I love Angel, too, and he, like Deb, should not be judged on their sexual needs. They were both looking for intimacy. I think the judging on that matter should be against pedophiles and rapists. They are harming innocents with their sexuality. Deb is looking for love, but isn't that what most human beings are looking for? Sometimes they are just looking for sex and if that's okay with both consenting adults then no harm no foul! As for Anton, I think underneath it all he is a pretty good person and a nice guy and I think he genuinely cares for Deb. I doubt that it will last because they have completely different lifestyles, but I think their relationship is really more honest than the other ones she's been in. He calms her down and allows her to relax and enjoy life instead of being hyper cop all of the time. Sometimes we need an opposite in a relationship to experience the other side of life that we are missing in ourselves. And, I might add that I don't think we have a lot of control over who we fall in love with. I think that love just happens whether you want it to or not. You can avoid it by staying away from the person, but it will still be in your heart....just like hate! The statements made that started this thread were an opinion and we all have them. That's why we're here! So regardless if it was insulting or not, it got the conversation going and that's a good thing! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
clairebbbear	17. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 19 2009, 10:05 PM EDT "I agree with clairebbbear. There should NOT be a double standard, and most likely it was started by men. I wonder what would happen if that double standard was actually put into effect. Then they wouldn't have any women to have sex with. I love Angel, too, and he, like Deb, should not be judged on their sexual needs. They were both looking for intimacy. I think the judging on that matter should be against pedophiles and rapists. They are harming innocents with their sexuality. Deb is looking for love, but isn't that what most human beings are looking for? Sometimes they are just looking for sex and if that's okay with both consenting adults then no harm no foul! " Quoted for truth! Deb is not a ho for wanting intimacy and love. Neither is Angel. A "ho", in my mind, is a person - male or female - who has sex just for fun, with no intention of committment. For these people sex is not about love or intimacy - it's just a physical act for which they see no consequences. And which they do again and again (sometimes even keeping a tally). Deb does not fit that description. And - despite his dalliances with a hooker - neither does Angel. He was just looking for intimacy too, but it was the only way he could find it. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Montacore	18. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 20 2009, 12:20 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 20 2009, 12:21 AM EDT " A "ho", in my mind, is a person - male or female - who has sex just for fun, with no intention of committment. For these people sex is not about love or intimacy - it's just a physical act for which they see no consequences. And which they do again and again (sometimes even keeping a tally). " Oh no I was a 'ho' in my 20's! LOL! Guess I have no room to say anything then. Well I never kept track of them thank God (and scientists) for birth control. Life goes on. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dexlvr3	19. RE: Why is Debra such a Ho? Aug 20 2009, 1:24 AM EDT "Oh no I was a 'ho' in my 20's! LOL! Guess I have no room to say anything then. Well I never kept track of them thank God (and scientists) for birth control. Life goes on." LOL!!! Just chalk it up to "experimentation!" Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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