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ZizzyB23 |
Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 1 2009, 10:21 PM EST
Great episode! Much like how a lot of people already predicted, Trinity is reliving the murder of his family through his kills, in some capacity at least. Trinity made sure to point his victim's hand towards the ash on the wall. Does he WANT to get caught?I like how Dexter has his own personal little work shed in the backyard now. Realistically I think that keeping blood slides in the AC unit in the shed out there is a little too risky. I don't think they need to be refrigerated, so I'd just as soon stash them in the secret compartment in the trunk where Dex keeps all the kill tools. Anyone else notice how Dex's blood spatter room got an upgrade? Like how in season one, Dexter only had a little wall to work at, and then they upgraded him to a full fledged office, now they've given his little blood spatter room viewing windows for people to observe him work with. How nice of the department. I really like the Arthur/"Kyle" relationship. It reminds me of the Dexter/Miguel relationship from last season. And I liked last season a lot. What's cool about this relationship is that it's also got some hints of the Dexter/'Rudy" relationship from season one, but this time, Dexter is playing the role of the Ice Truck Killer sort of. Are La Guerta and Angel really done? I doubt it. Do you find this valuable? |
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1. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 1 2009, 10:48 PM EST
ya thats true dex is kinda doing what brian/rudy did.and someone said that deb said that she knew who harry had an affair with, is that true? I would love to see dex and tk becoming friends and contacting each other and knowing what each other is! Do you find this valuable? |
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ZizzyB23 |
2. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 1 2009, 10:54 PM EST
"ya thats true dex is kinda doing what brian/rudy did.Deb thinks she knows, but I don't think she really knows. The woman who called her on the phone was most definitely not Dexter's mother. Do you find this valuable? |
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mike91848 |
3. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 1 2009, 10:54 PM EST
"ya thats true dex is kinda doing what brian/rudy did.I thought about that too! But I wonder if Arthur can connect to anyone else, like Dexter or himself? I'll have to think about that one. Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 2 2009, 12:05 AM EST
"I thought about that too! But I wonder if Arthur can connect to anyone else, like Dexter or himself? I'll have to think about that one."I really doubt that he can! He is already suspicious of Dex, I think. They think the same way. I think my favorite part of tonight's episode was the look on Dexter's face at the very end. He learned a good lesson from the TK...how to hide in plain site...and it worked! Rita even helped him move the trunk! Do you find this valuable? |
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Rita'sGhost |
5. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 2 2009, 8:35 PM EST
I think that workshed is trouble waiting to happen.How funny that we all adopt the lingo of dexter...such as "the kill tools"...just rolling off our tongues!! I'd like to see more between TK and Dex before he pays a visit to the table!! As far as la guerta and angel...not over!! I wonder how deb's investigation into lundy's murdere will unfold...will she uncover dex's involvement in the removal of some of lundy's things and how will he Explain that?? Do you find this valuable? |
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ZizzyB23 |
6. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 2 2009, 10:25 PM EST
"I think that workshed is trouble waiting to happen.I'm thinking Deb will find out Dexter took Lundy's stuff and not the Trinity Killer. She will become quite suspicious I'd guess. Do you find this valuable? |
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BarsaJeff |
7. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 3 2009, 12:04 AM EST
I can definitely see Deb finding the hammer and Lundys files/recorders, but I think we're going to watch her crack and go off the wall thinking that her brother is the TK and that he shot her and killed Lundy. They`ve already started to show her on the verge of breaking, why not go all the way.
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mtmccourt |
8. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 3 2009, 12:43 AM EST
I must say that the Arthur & “Kyle” relationship is like the moth to a flame. Dexter is drawn to Arthur as a sort of serial killer mentor. Dexter is in awe of Arthur’s ability to maintain a stable marriage and family life, not to mention his spiritual wisdom and sense of community. Arthur has much to teach Dexter, and Dexter has much to learn from the “Master”. However, Dexter’s lack of social skills has always played as a handicap. He struggles with his own inadequacy on a daily basis. His lack of finesse will be Dexter’s undoing as he will continue to cross boundaries with Arthur, thus creating suspicion in Arthur’s mind about “Kyle’s” identity and true intentions. Remember, Arthur is a better skilled stalker than Dexter, and Lundy’s death is proof of that. I think Dexter should back off and maintain a low profile rather than imbedding himself in Arthur’s life. Curiosity killed the cat, and Dexter is playing a dangerous game with Arthur. Poor Dex is no match for Arthur’s lethal lifestyle. Yet Dex cannot help himself. His thirst for knowledge (from Arthur) compels him to get closer and more involved in Arthur’s life. Sooner or later Arthur will sense that Dexter is an imposter and a liability to his perfect and controlled environment. Dexter will need to strike fast. For every day that he delays in eliminating his iconic mentor, he risks exposure and the wrath of Trinity.Rita has him under her thumb and is holding him accountable for his actions or the absence of action. Dexter feels boxed in by Rita because she demands the one thing that he cannot submit – the truth! He hasn’t been truly honest with anyone in his life. Why do you think he talks to the dead (i.e. father)? His father is really Dexter’s subconscious talking to him and guiding him from making mistakes and taking unnecessary risks. Do you find this valuable? |
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JessicaJC |
9. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 3 2009, 9:24 AM EST
This was a great episode. I see something happening though with Debra. She knows things are missing (Dexter has them) and now that Dexter has identified the murder weapon (which he also has now), I think Debra is in scary territory of stumbling onto something that will make her think it's Dexter.
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ZizzyB23 |
10. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 3 2009, 7:49 PM EST
"This was a great episode. I see something happening though with Debra. She knows things are missing (Dexter has them) and now that Dexter has identified the murder weapon (which he also has now), I think Debra is in scary territory of stumbling onto something that will make her think it's Dexter. "Dexter couldn't possibly be the Trinity Killer. Its unlikely he'd be committing these murders as a toddler thirty years ago. Do you find this valuable? |
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marlabarla |
11. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 3 2009, 11:23 PM EST
I may be totally off base, but I cant help but think Dexter is being set up by TK. He has at least one of the murder weapons maybe more in the bag. His fingerprints are on the sisters ashes. And he surly does not have an alibi for the latest killing on account he was watching the murder take place.
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JessicaJC |
12. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 4 2009, 12:47 AM EST
"Dexter couldn't possibly be the Trinity Killer. Its unlikely he'd be committing these murders as a toddler thirty years ago."In no way do I mean Dexter is the TK. I am saying Dexter is in posession of a few things that will make people THINK he could be. Especially because Debra is deeply searching. Do you find this valuable? |
Losa78 |
13. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 4 2009, 6:14 PM EST
Just finished watching this, and I will take some of the OP's points.My best guess so far about the ashes on the wall and the victim pointing there could be sort of Trinity's calling card or his code or ritual, to strengthen his point about why he has killed and make is symbolic. He does risk getting caught, but the fact is that the main reason why the ashes were even found is because Dexter saw the killing happening and the TK specifically pointing the victim's arm there. Otherwise, maybe the ashes wouldn't even have been found, as it seems they haven't been for all these years. About the new shed in the backyard, I thought that was a little awkward, specially and specifically the air conditioning device... I mean, we all know why it's there and what it contains, but wouldn't Rita or any other person find it weird that a device like that would be necessary in a place like that? I mean, in Dexter's apartment the AC device totally blended in, but in a backyard shack?! I don't know... It didn't seem like the place where anybody would spend that much time in order to need refreshing... Also, as it was easy to predict, Dexter (or should I say Kyle) is "drinking" from the TK's wisdom and experience on how to have a loving family and still be a serial killer, and it seems to have worked. Rita was happy just to hear Dexter saying he needed his space. I thought that would have resulted as pretty obvious just from the fact that he had kept his apartment... Oh, well... Was it just me who thought Dexter went way too much out on a limb by saying (in front of the counselor) that he thought that Rita would definitely leave him if she knew who he really was? Doesn't that get ANYBODY really, really wondering, way more than Rita seems to be right now, at the end of this episode? Anyway, another great episode. Do you find this valuable? |
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Losa78 |
14. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 4 2009, 6:21 PM EST
"I may be totally off base, but I cant help but think Dexter is being set up by TK. He has at least one of the murder weapons maybe more in the bag. His fingerprints are on the sisters ashes. And he surly does not have an alibi for the latest killing on account he was watching the murder take place. "Now THAT would be a serious twist... although not a very plausible one... As far as we know, the TK doesn't have any clue on who Dexter (or should I say Kyle Butler) really is or why he got into his life, and much less that he has witnessed the latest bludgeon killing... Also, I don't see how the TK could possibly predict or plan that Dexter would pick up his dead sister's pot of ashes... And the hammer is now completely devoid of any traces of the killing. The simple fact it is the same model used in the killing will not lead to much... You're a deep thinker, though. We'll still see about this... Do you find this valuable? |
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Losa78 |
15. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 4 2009, 6:29 PM EST
"I really doubt that he can! He is already suspicious of Dex, I think. They think the same way.Yeah, well, but the TK's way to hide his "souvenirs" is way much more inconspicuous than Dexter's. Nobody will ever think anything of the TK's plates on the wall unless they specifically know about their connection to the killings as Dexter does. That's why the plates are in fact in plain sight. As for Dexter's "souvenirs", they're not exactly in plain sight, since they're hidden inside the AC unit. And like I said on one of my previous posts, it's way more suspicious now on a backyard shed than it was in his apartment... If they're ever found, so is Dexter. I don't know... The analogy tried to make here didn't totally work for me... Do you find this valuable? |
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cannualiciat |
16. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 4 2009, 8:57 PM EST
"Not really weird at all. We all have sides to us that we don't want others to see. The fact is that on the outside looking in you would not take that comment to mean someone is a serial killer. Especially since the therapist knew that he was a 'drug' addict. That is really a perfectly normal statement to make in something like in these sessions. There are things in my life that i worried if my husband knew he would not have married me. we cleared the air on those, but then again..I wasn't a serial killer :-) I guess I am just saying we all have secrets, and we keep them thay way for a reason. Some people fear that others cannot accept them for their secrets. Do you find this valuable? |
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Losa78 |
17. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 5 2009, 3:50 PM EST
"Not really weird at all. We all have sides to us that we don't want others to see. The fact is that on the outside looking in you would not take that comment to mean someone is a serial killer. Especially since the therapist knew that he was a 'drug' addict. That is really a perfectly normal statement to make in something like in these sessions. There are things in my life that i worried if my husband knew he would not have married me. we cleared the air on those, but then again..I wasn't a serial killer :-) I guess I am just saying we all have secrets, and we keep them thay way for a reason. Some people fear that others cannot accept them for their secrets. "I essentially agree on what you say here in the sense everybody has their personal secrets nobody else will ever know about, not even a husband or wife. However, Dexter blatantly said there are things about him that if Rita knew about them, she would _definitely_ leave him, and he was not talking about his "drug addiction", because Rita "knew" about that already. That statement from Dexter is quite heavy and it does suggest something really, really serious. Not necessarily the serial killer kind of thing, but I would still think it would get anybody at least wondering big time... When you cleared the air with your husband, you didn't tell him there were things about you that if he knew, he would definitely leave you, right? I'm sure your secrets would never justify that anyway, like they didn't. Do you find this valuable? |
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ZizzyB23 |
18. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 5 2009, 4:07 PM EST
"I essentially agree on what you say here in the sense everybody has their personal secrets nobody else will ever know about, not even a husband or wife.I hear what you're saying exactly. I think Dexter could've kept that thought to himself. Rita isn't at all curious as to what's so bad about Dexter that he thinks she would leave him if she found out? Do you find this valuable? |
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Losa78 |
19. RE: Thoughts on "IF I HAD A HAMMER"
Nov 5 2009, 4:16 PM EST
"I hear what you're saying exactly. I think Dexter could've kept that thought to himself. Rita isn't at all curious as to what's so bad about Dexter that he thinks she would leave him if she found out?"You know, that actually brings me to another one of Dexter's main quotes on this episode: "People just do this? Say what they're thinking? Out loud?" He's always been extremely effective at measuring each and every word he says "out loud", never letting on absolutely nothing about his killings or about how much he really knows about the other serial killers. This is another reason why that statement from him at the marriage counselor kind of disappointed me and didn't feel in character, maybe... Do you find this valuable? |
