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Discussion: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
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Patty |
What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 13 2007, 5:16 PM EDT Are Harry's survival lessons honorable (i.e. the efforts of a loving father to protect his son from the world and his dark nature) or misguided to the extreme? 35 out of 40 found this valuable. Do you? |
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TheIceTruckKiller |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 25 2007, 2:45 PM EDT They are beyond honorable, he didn't just help his son. He helped the community of Miami and its surrounding counties. 21 out of 25 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sexydexy |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 28 2007, 4:29 AM EDT I couldn't condone such a thing in real life, as I don't know if there would have been a better way of dealing with the issue or not. But where the TV show is concerned, it sure makes for an original, intelligent, and compelling premise. Harry saw Dexter's true dark nature as a child, and taught him to channel this in a way that helps Dexter control his impulses, helping him to survive (outise of prison) and protect the community at large. This damaged child was given more than adequate love and attention as well as skills that converted a would-be villian, killer without reason, into a sort of dark angel, if you will. I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! :) 24 out of 26 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Patty |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 28 2007, 11:55 AM EDT I agree with you. Mostly... One of the most brilliant aspects of the show for me is that the very premise of Harry's relationship with Dexter and the code he instills is so deeply conflicting. On the one hand, as a mother of two, I can see how a parent would take extreme measures to protect their child from a life of being ostracized, or worse. On the other, Harry essentially turns his son into a (his?) weapon of justice. His own deep sense of outrage with the "system" (creeps like the guy who killed his partner getting off scott-free because of technicalities, etc.) finds convenient retribution in Dexter's psychopathy. But, yes, I LOVE THE SHOW TOO! :) 18 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Firegirl53 Firegirl53 |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 30 2007, 8:16 PM EDT Harry was present and took part in the killing of Dexter's mom as he was a typical "bad" Miami cop. He taught Harry the code because he was responsible for what Harry was to become. 5 out of 25 found this valuable. Do you? |
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StellaMae |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Sep 30 2007, 11:18 PM EDT Harry isn't Dexter's real father. I think Harry acted upon what he thought was best for a child who experienced extreme trauma by seeing the murder of his mother - instead of punishing the boy, he gave him a way out. He stuck true and consistent to his words and his code, and I think it helped Dexter to a point - but as we're seeing in Season 2, the inevitable is going to happen anyway. The code that Dexter has lived by is suffering, because Dexter is learning how to feel. Harry never taught Dexter NOT to feel - but he didn't teach him HOW to feel, either. Just how to appear. 16 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sexydexy |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 1 2007, 12:30 AM EDT Excellent observation! Dexter does seem to be beggining to "feel" and doens't know how to handle it. Too bad Harry isn't still alive to help him and to see the progress he is making (or is it progress?) His character is so unique and complex, and the show is so brilliant because it has so many dimensions to it. It is amazing to me that the program still seems to be "under-the-radar." I didn't think I'd like anything as much as I did the Sopranos, but I seem to finding Dexter much more addicting and exciting to watch! 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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StellaMae |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 1 2007, 10:29 AM EDT Heheh, I agree! Though I never watched Sopranos, there were some other shows that I would have swore would be the only ones I'd ever truly like - welllll. lol, that's rather closed minded I guess, cause here's Dexter and The Tudors, and I am ADDICTED. :D 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Paulie227 |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 2 2007, 8:54 PM EDT The cop didn't kill Dexter's mom. The way I saw it was, when the mom told Dexter to close his eyes, it was because her husband was about to chop her to bits and she didn't want to see. Harry came upon a crime scene, but did not kill Dexter's mom 6 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sexydexy |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 3 2007, 2:30 AM EDT No, Harry didn't kill Dexter's mom. Actually, the newpaper article said it was drug dealers that killed her. 7 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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cfontecha |
Code of Harry?
Oct 4 2007, 5:53 PM EDT It's the best that has happened to a serial killer since ever. Channeling Dexter's dark forces has resulted in a benefit for society. 11 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Simsy Simsy |
RE: Code of Harry?
Oct 16 2007, 3:12 AM EDT harry was only looking out for dexter and as such did this code for him. like has every has said before me this is away for dexter to help out the community and rid the world of the wrong doers. 7 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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nenaboo2007 |
RE: Code of Harry?
Oct 18 2007, 3:59 PM EDT "harry was only looking out for dexter and as such did this code for him. like has every has said before me this is away for dexter to help out the community and rid the world of the wrong doers. "Harry wanted someone to continue to follow the CODE after he is long gone. He loved Dexter and by showing him the code made Dexter what he is today. Dexter is what you may call a "silent vigilante". He doesn't want a party or recognition that he is ridding the world of the evil people. In a way, Dexter is GOD. He decided that he should be the Alpha and the Omega by taking out the "GARBARGE". To rid the world of the malicious people. Dexter is GOD in his own mind because he is "trying" to make a difference in the little town that he lives in. Too bad we cannot have more GODS such as DEXTER all over the world.....Wouldn't the world be a better place to live in? Dag, I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! I AM TOTALLY HOOKED ON DEXTER. I feel I can be one of his ANGELS... LOL 2 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Glidinforlove |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 21 2007, 9:49 PM EDT I think that Harry's Code and Dexter's actions are more than warranted, given the victims he chooses. That is what makes this show so intriging-we would all love to wipe out the bad guys in the world and balance the scales so to speak--but many of us don't even have the fantasy life that Dexter does, the one he controls--as he takes out the garbage and cleans up Miami. The lessons that Harry has given, about how to fit in, how to cover his tracks--Dexter was very lucky that Harry chose to take Dexter out of the Box car first, if not, imagine the killer he would have become--without conscience. (Well, look at Rudy/Brian!) 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SoFlaKate SoFlaKate |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 21 2007, 10:00 PM EDT "I think that Harry's Code and Dexter's actions are more than warranted, given the victims he chooses. That is what makes this show so intriging-we would all love to wipe out the bad guys in the world and balance the scales so to speak--but many of us don't even have the fantasy life that Dexter does, the one he controls--as he takes out the garbage and cleans up Miami. The lessons that Harry has given, about how to fit in, how to cover his tracks--Dexter was very lucky that Harry chose to take Dexter out of the Box car first, if not, imagine the killer he would have become--without conscience. (Well, look at Rudy/Brian!)"Harry's "code" may have benefited society but it screwed up Dexter more than he already was. Harry plays amateur shrink, decides Dexter is unredeemable and figures he'll turn him into a tool for Harry's own sick ends. The scene tonight in which he tells Dexter to lie to the psychologist was just chilling. Dexter might have been helped if someone had been alerted to his condition. (But what an idiot that counselor was, anyway.) I also think it was unconscionable for Harry to keep Dexter's brother's existene a secret. Harry was despicable; I don't care how much he claimed to love Dexter. 7 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Glidinforlove |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 22 2007, 8:13 PM EDT Wow, I never looked at it that way--I guess I assumed Dexter was hard wired and that Harry had probably tried to get him help before training him. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SoFlaKate SoFlaKate |
RE: What do you think of the Code of Harry?
Oct 24 2007, 8:43 PM EDT "Wow, I never looked at it that way--I guess I assumed Dexter was hard wired and that Harry had probably tried to get him help before training him. "All I saw was Harry noticing young Dexter liked killing things, and the next thing we know he's training him to kill people that the cops couldn't arrest. 6 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SoFlaKate SoFlaKate |
RE: Code of Harry?
Oct 24 2007, 8:48 PM EDT "Harry wanted someone to continue to follow the CODE after he is long gone. He loved Dexter and by showing him the code made Dexter what he is today. Dexter is what you may call a "silent vigilante". He doesn't want a party or recognition that he is ridding the world of the evil people. In a way, Dexter is GOD. He decided that he should be the Alpha and the Omega by taking out the "GARBARGE". To rid the world of the malicious people. Dexter is GOD in his own mind because he is "trying" to make a difference in the little town that he lives in. Too bad we cannot have more GODS such as DEXTER all over the world.....Wouldn't the world be a better place to live in? Dag, I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! I AM TOTALLY HOOKED ON DEXTER. I feel I can be one of his ANGELS... LOL"Yeah, let's have justice meted out by a bunch of twisted sociopaths. We can trust them to be "sure" they're getting the right people. Remember when the captain wanted to announce that "moral people have nothing to fear" form the Biscayne Butcher? Let's be careful who gets to decide who "the moral people" are. 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SoFlaKate SoFlaKate |
RE: Code of Harry?
Oct 24 2007, 8:56 PM EDT By the way, I find it fascinatig to watch the cops interviewing families of the Butcher's victims. Interesting questions are being raised about the pain that these people are in. Do they deserve to be cast adrift like this by Harry's "code"? Perhaps it would be more painful for them to discover the truth about these guys. But we are learning that there was more to the victims than their crimes. Maybe Dexter needs to update his code. Maybe he'd better hope no one discovers his secret and, before they realize he's "onl;y killing the bad people," they decide HEneeds to be brought to justice What really bothers me is that it's all so neat and easy and quick. Drag a knife across someone's cheek and he immediately confesses all. Sure. But don;t get me wrong - I love this show for all these questions it raises. I'm not a troll who obsesses about a show she doesn't even like. 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Glidinforlove |
RE: Code of Harry?
Oct 25 2007, 5:10 PM EDT I think that deciding who is moral is something the cops do--but Dexter goes after the ones he knows are guilty, but the cops would not be able to put behind bars or death row--he is following police procedures when he investigates--he is a CSI of sorts after all and has the inside track on who did what and what evidence there is and how the evidence may not be enough to convince a jury--I feel he is bringing justice to these people. No what happened with his woman's ex--that was immoral--gave a darker side to Dexter; will he always choose the means to the end? We may see a darker side of him yet to come. 4 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |

