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Visable1 |
The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Nov 14 2007, 3:09 PM EST
This detail from the last episode is bugging me. The references made by Lundy as well as by Deb talk about it in conjunction with "a peaceful place" and the particular Nocturne that Deb loads on her IPod is indeed very much melodic and calming but, Lundy talks about Chopin as if all his works are that way when in fact, while they do start off melodic and soothing in the first movements, generally move forward gradually building to a fever pitch of drama that always reminds me of Procofiev on occasion. Nerveous music. Very much appropriate for Dexter's life really as we all know that he puts on a calm, soothing, charming and relaxing facade for those around him but, he always ends up brutally dismembering a victim eventually. I can't help thinking that the writters are giving us a hint at things to come but, I can't quite put my finger on what that will be. The trailers for next weeks episode make it clear that Dexter is fearful for Rita's safety. IS it from Lila? Doaks? Is Lila the nocture? Soothing him in early episodes, drawing him into her world with promises of it being a safe place where he can be himself when in reality, she will build to a fever pitch of violence and drama (already too obvious from her setting her apartment on fire out of obvious jealousy that Dexter was spending time Rita and her son? I've given a great deal of thought to movies this nocturne is heard in. Nothing is jumping out at me. Still I feel like this bit of music is significant. 16 out of 19 found this valuable. Do you?
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jwnelson11 |
1. RE: The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Nov 15 2007, 4:30 PM EST
Was this in the BOOK. Sorry I am getting tired of everyone referencingTHE BOOK. Chopin is relaxing music. Remember his first statements were, 'Where is my music?', 'I can't find my music!' I think it is primarily a referance to his need to relax and get in a rythmn to find the killer. Some people have to have a certain work pace, and this includes thier own toy, and music, something to divert them of outside distractions so they can focus on the problem at hand. I knew a Surgeon that needed Def Leopard or a Heavy Metal background noise while he wasdoing his most involved surgery. He needed it to get into a rythmn to to the surgery. I took Lundy's reference to music to mean that. NOW Deb is listening to Chopin. I think it is a way of charater development and we are seeing Deb doing what Lundy does because she is attracted to him. BUT Now that you say that, I too am wondering if you might be on to something? I think Chopin was his first request, he could have asked for anything but said, 'Do you have any Chopin?' I guess we will see what happens. Do you find this valuable? |
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Visable1 |
2. RE: The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Nov 15 2007, 6:57 PM EST
Lundy isn't in the books. Neither are any references to Chopin. This is totally specific to the one episode, at least so far. I don't agree that Chopin is "relaxing" but, that's just me. I find his music to be gently intense, good for introspection without a doubt but, with few exceptions, his works tend to start gentle and build to some pretty wild cresendos. On the other hand, the Nocturne that Deb selects isn't in that vein. It's more of a lullaby. You can listen to a pretty good variety of his work at The classical archives. An online site dedicated to classical works. Some of his works I just love. A few of his sonatas really just irritate me to hear. I'm not sure why. I can see why Lundy would find his nocturnes a good choice for introspection.
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3. RE: The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Jan 27 2008, 6:52 PM EST
I want to know which Nocturne Deb chose!? the lullaby one! i just cant seem to find it. help please?
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4. RE: The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Jul 20 2008, 4:10 PM EDT
"I want to know which Nocturne Deb chose!? the lullaby one! i just cant seem to find it. help please?"I'm not 100% sure but I think it's Nocturne Opus 9 No. 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnes_Op._9_(Chopin) 4 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jwnelson11 |
5. RE: The importance of Chopin's nocturne??
Jul 21 2008, 3:18 PM EDT
"Lundy isn't in the books. Neither are any references to Chopin. This is totally specific to the one episode, at least so far. I don't agree that Chopin is "relaxing" but, that's just me. I find his music to be gently intense, good for introspection without a doubt but, with few exceptions, his works tend to start gentle and build to some pretty wild cresendos. On the other hand, the Nocturne that Deb selects isn't in that vein. It's more of a lullaby. You can listen to a pretty good variety of his work at The classical archives. An online site dedicated to classical works. Some of his works I just love. A few of his sonatas really just irritate me to hear. I'm not sure why. I can see why Lundy would find his nocturnes a good choice for introspection."No Kidding it's not in the Book?? Oh My!!!! How can the series continue?? 0 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
